This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Allis Chalmers > Farm Equipment
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


inline gas filters

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
wkiheri View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level


Joined: 02 Sep 2016
Location: minnesota
Points: 26
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wkiheri Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: inline gas filters
    Posted: 07 May 2017 at 10:35am
Will a inline wix fuel filter work on a b allis.  I put one on and after running for a half hour or so it has hardly an gas going through it and the tractor starts to run out of gas. The carb has been cleaned and rebuilt, and the tank has been cleaned and red coated. the sediment bowl is clear . When I disconnect the gas line from the carb no gas is coming out and when I take the filter off the line the gas pours out. Can the filter stop water and be plugged because of it because I can't see any water in the filter it has a clear plastic body.  When I blow air through the filter backwards and the put it back in then the gas flows again and fills up the filter and the tractor runs fine.
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
Leon n/c AR. View Drop Down
Bronze Level
Bronze Level
Avatar

Joined: 19 Mar 2013
Location: Heber Springs A
Points: 169
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Leon n/c AR. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 10:56am
Most automotive inline filters do exactly like you are describing as they are made for systems using fuel pump pressure. Possibly could use inline filter for gravity flow lawn mower,but may clog if it does get much trash or debris. Better to just use a food screen on sediment bowl only. Leon
Back to Top
Larry in NC View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 09 Feb 2016
Location: NC
Points: 1048
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Larry in NC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 11:16am
If you have water in the tank, you can see it separate in the sediment bowl.  I have seen comments on the forum where folks have had good luck with in-line filters.  It has not been the case for me.  I just reply on the sediment bowl.  If you do have a trash problem, you can install a pipe in the top of the sediment bowl housing so gas at the bottom of the tank will not run into the bowl. 
Back to Top
KJCHRIS View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 21 Dec 2015
Location: WC Iowa
Points: 883
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KJCHRIS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 12:01pm
Several yearrs back I did some checking for low power on a neighbors mid-size tractor, a  D14. Points, rotor, cap, wires & plugs looked good. He'd said that he'd just changed inline fuel filter and emptied cleaned and refilled the oil bath air cleaner. 
What was causing the problem was that the inline filter was installed backwards. Fuel came into inside of filter not the outside. Also the oil bath was way over filled, tractor still runs like a top. 

AC 200, CAH, AC185D bareback, AC 180D bareback, D17 III, WF. D17 Blackbar grill, NF. D15 SFW. Case 1175 CAH, Bobcat 543B,
Back to Top
DSeries4 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Points: 7308
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DSeries4 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 9:07pm
With a clean and coated tank and good gas, the original sediment bowls work fine and there is no need for the inline filters.  
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
Back to Top
MACK View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 17 Nov 2009
Points: 7664
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MACK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 9:26pm
In line filter in a straight line from tank to carburetor. Liquid don't like to run up hill unless it has something pushing it.      MACK
Back to Top
Ted J View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: La Crosse, WI
Points: 18786
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ted J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 9:59pm
Originally posted by KJCHRIS KJCHRIS wrote:

the inline filter was installed backwards. Fuel came into inside of filter not the outside.
SOME of them have an arrow on them, MOST do not.  You'll figure it out.  But as said, you really don't need one.

I haven't sealed my tanks as yet, and just use the sediment bowl and have NO problems.  (NOW I did it,,,,,jinxed myself....).  Throw that filter out and see what happens.
"Allis-Express"
19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17
Back to Top
shameless dude View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Apr 2017
Location: east NE
Points: 13607
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote shameless dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 11:00pm
blow thru the new one to see which way the fuel is sposed to flow. one way you can blow air thru, the other way you can't.
Back to Top
shameless dude View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 10 Apr 2017
Location: east NE
Points: 13607
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote shameless dude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 11:00pm
I also like the sediment bowls the best too. they are re-useable!
Back to Top
CrestonM View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 08 Sep 2014
Location: Oklahoma
Points: 8387
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CrestonM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2017 at 11:28pm
Originally posted by DSeries4 DSeries4 wrote:

With a clean and coated tank and good gas, the original sediment bowls work fine and there is no need for the inline filters.  
x2! 
And if it were a Ford, it'd have 3 filters in it already! One in the tank, sediment bowl, and carb inlet! Big smile
Back to Top
Gary Burnett View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 11 Sep 2009
Location: Virginia
Points: 2929
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gary Burnett Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2017 at 2:04am
There are plenty of small particles that will pass thru the screen in the sediment bowl
that will stop up a carb,that's why I started using the filters in the first place.I've run several different types of inline filters,have them on all my gas tractors without a problem EXCEPT if they're mounted backwards or if they have had
water run thru them.Water will cause the filter material to swell on some filters and nothing will pass thru them then.Of course that's the whole idea of a filter to stop things other than the fuel.

Back to Top
dt1050 View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 05 Jul 2011
Location: central pa
Points: 1078
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dt1050 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2017 at 4:12am
I bought a glass in line filter with a metal mesh on the inside that was reusable.  used it on the international, worked great, until it got plugged up with rust from the tank.  I got it from the local auto parts store. 

on a side note.  I went to a different auto parts store later on to get a fuel filter for my 5020 diesel, the fella handed me one of them little red in line filters for a lawn mower??Confused  While I'm all for saving money I just don't think it would be a good replacement!!!
Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers
Back to Top
Steve in NJ View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access
Avatar

Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Location: Andover, NJ
Points: 11748
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve in NJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2017 at 8:43am
Best filter to put on the Tractor would be a gravity fed type fuel filter like what's on a riding mower. A fuel pump type filter (can type) will slow the fuel way down starving the engine. It doesn't hurt to install an inline filter (gravity type) to work with the sediment bowl as Gary mentioned. There is still enough debris that gets through the sediment bowls screen that could cause some issues down the road with Carburetor....

Edited by Steve in NJ - 08 May 2017 at 8:44am
39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife
Back to Top
HudCo View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level
Avatar

Joined: 29 Jan 2013
Location: Plymouth Utah
Points: 3494
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote HudCo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2017 at 10:19am
 them sediment bowls work pretty dang good,    im with steve if sould want to use a inline filter on this,    the briggs part number 298090s  in line fuel filter will really flow, and  is desined for gravity feed and can be back flushed and re used
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.078 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum