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JasonB 
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Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 3:41pm |
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Question for the Cotton growers and AC Fans. Anyone know of, or have seen any of the Later Allis Chalmers Cotton pickers/Strippers still being used to pick cotton? Have only seen pictures on line of an AC Picker/ Stripper sitting at Myers Farm Equipment in Ohio, Also believe( from the video of George Nesbitt's collection in Canada) that he has one. Would love to see pictures of one working in cotton.
Where were these built? Laport Indiana or at the combine plant at Independence Mo? Know the later ones shared the same cab as the Gleaner L2's.
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irlbeck A-C'S
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Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 4:50pm |
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Some of the cotton pickers were built in the Gadsden AL. plant.
Don't know of any around here still being used to harvest.
The pickers and the strippers were used alot in Alabama/Georgia. I've heard about
alot of them used in Texas/ Arizona region also.
They are getting harder to come by. Here in the Southeast you will find the occasional 616 picker as well as some strippers. Almost all will be in a fence row.
I have a friend who worked in the plant with the pickers. He has some great stories about the pickers and the changes that were needed to get more a horsepower for the picker tractors.
James Coons, a member on here has some interesting AC pickers. I feel he'll come on here with some great info.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 7:13pm |
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Western Oklahoma. West texas and texas panhandle you'll see several in a couple hours drive through the cotton country. I saw one last fall north east of midland texas working. Had the classic trail of black smoke just like a gleaner.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 7:22pm |
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Western Oklahoma. West texas and texas panhandle you'll see several in a couple hours drive through the cotton country. I saw one last fall north east of midland texas working. Had the classic trail of black smoke just like a gleaner. |
Nice to hear that some of the AC Cotton pickers are still being used. Were they all Hydro, or did some of them have a gear transmission option like the Gleaners of the same era? Don't grow cotton up here so not too familiar with the pickers.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 7:38pm |
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Used to to be quite a few in SE VA and Eastern NC,I bought one once it was a reversed D17 with the 4 speed and a reverser ,a fellow bought it to turn it into a loader tractor
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Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 10:00pm |
I am not a cotton guy,but not far from cotton country(100 miles) and have never seen a AC cotton picker in California. As I know they made cotton strippers and that is a different process than picking cotton,did AC build a picker??
Several neighbors and I spent a lot of muddy days in a farm machinery junk yard in the hart of Ca cotton country in the 80's. Took lots of stuff off cotton pickers lots of green and more red but no orange. I do remember some from other than the big companies but not orange,may of been yellow. We all ran what most called junk, and all kinds of stuff could be jumbled in when the big corporate farms started cleaning. So we looked for old stuff but they never organized so we looked everywhere. We were on very good terms had free rein to pull what we wanted if asked first as some things they want to sell whole rather than part out.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 1:28am |
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I've only seen the one stripper working in recent years. But most are fence row machines. You do see quite a few that never sit in the same place every year though. In the 80's i saw several run as a child.
I know you can by the left over stalks that an allis has been there. My dad said they did an excellent job.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 1:39am |
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I've never seen any brand working cept in videoes, did see 2 AC's on an auction a few years ago, but don't remember what they brought but I think they sold for a lot more
than scrap price. that could be a good sign.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 3:03am |
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See the occasional stripper for sale in north and central TX on CL. 301 engine and last one I saw was 3500.00 reduced from 4500.00 since two years ago. They are usually complete, too bad you could not make something useful out of them as cab with a/c.
Shameless could make a front mounted snow blower unit like that converted D21, and it would already be facing the right way!
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 3:52am |
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Friend of mine, in Grandfield, OK has an 880 cotton harvester for sale, It has the 433I/T and hydro. Sold his other one a few months ago. It was used to harvest cotton this year and my friend used it many years before that.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 5:48am |
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I think Creston buddy has 1-2 of them in his shed?
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 6:04am |
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Jason, Are you a member of our A-C Club of Ontario? The president lives in Kippen ! I wrote a story on A-C cotton pickers two newsletters ago. James Coons emailed me a lot of info and I have some original cotton picker sales brochures.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 6:16am |
Calvin Schmidt wrote:
Jason, Are you a member of our A-C Club of Ontario? The president lives in Kippen ! I wrote a story on A-C cotton pickers two newsletters ago. James Coons emailed me a lot of info and I have some original cotton picker sales brochures. |
Calvin, No I am not a member of the AC Club of Ontario at this time. I do know Wayne and Brad McBride though and my dad does as well. Never found the time to join but should.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 9:22am |
Calvin Schmidt wrote:
Jason, Are you a member of our A-C Club of Ontario? The president lives in Kippen ! I wrote a story on A-C cotton pickers two newsletters ago. James Coons emailed me a lot of info and I have some original cotton picker sales brochures. |
I would love to read/see that! I spent the better part of a day out at James Coon's place in AZ, and was like a kid in a candy store, since our family had 3 of the old 2 row pickers in south texas, but they are long gone! We retired them in the early 70's due to lack of parts availability, and simply keeping them going. The engines got sold out of them, but we never took the D17 out from underneath.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 9:30am |
In 2010 there were 2 AC cotton pickers at the old AC dealer in Sharon,Kansas..
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 9:35am |
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that's a cotton stripper. Totally different machine. Those were built into the early 80's as an 880, based on a combine chassis. Actual cotton pickers, are a very complex machine, an AC as well as many others back in the day based it off a tractor for the powertrain. Pickers only pick the cotton bolls off the plant, and we used to pick twice, second time called scrapping, picking the bolls that were still green and closed up when picked the first time around. The strippers take everything, but after it freezes, so it's all ready to harvest at once. In the far south areas, we grew cotton in the summer, so didn't have a freeze to help dry it down. We grew produce during the winter.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 10:52am |
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Nowadays they dont wait for the freeze. They just sprsy it and it turns.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 3:20pm |
180Puller wrote:
In 2010 there were 2 AC cotton pickers at the old AC dealer in Sharon,Kansas..
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Wow! Very nice picture of both the AC Cotton Striper and of the old Allis Chalmers dealership with the sign still out front. Would love to visit one of those dealers sometime. Look to be in nice shape that picker is.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 4:10pm |
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I think Creston buddy has 1-2 of them in his shed?
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Yep! We have two 880 cotton strippers. 1980 and 1981. We haven't used them in 3 or 4 years, but we will be using them this fall, so I will be sure to get pics and videos for you guys. I'll try to get a walk around video showing how everything works, and the path the cotton takes. And yes, to the OP, there are many many many old Allis cotton STRIPPERS (Not pickers. Pickers have about 2 billion parts and are super expensive to run. The newer JD pickers have a 55 gallon barrel of grease for the header spindles mounted on them, and it uses up that 55 gallon drum in 1 week, according to a guy I talked to who had them, then switched to strippers. They also have to carry a ton of water on board to moisten the spindles so they grab the cotton better.) all over SW Oklahoma. Most are out to pasture, but some are still in use. Someone asked about variable speed drive and hydrostat....all of the 860s were variable speed as far as I know. I'm not sure if it was an option or not on the later 880s, but ours are hydro. I've never seen a variable speed 880.
Here is a photo from 2015 of a buddy's 860. They use the same engines as the One-Ninety's. He has 3 of them and his cousin has a slick 880.
And here is a link to a "not the best in the world" video I shot of him stripping that day. It looks best if you turn the quality up to 720. This guy is pretty awesome. Kind of my role model when it comes to farming with Allis. I'm hoping one summer he'll let me run his N6 and plow with his 7000 series tractors or his 8550! That would be the best ever! I'd upload a photo of his module builder and boll buggy hooked to his 7045 and 7050, but they are those .PNG files, and it won't let me upload them.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 4:57pm |
CrestonM wrote:
shameless (ne) wrote:
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Yep! We have two 880 cotton strippers. 1980 and 1981. We haven't used them in 3 or 4 years, but we will be using them this fall, so I will be sure to get pics and videos for you guys. I'll try to get a walk around video showing how everything works, and the path the cotton takes. And yes, to the OP, there are many many many old Allis cotton STRIPPERS (Not pickers. Pickers have about 2 billion parts and are super expensive to run. The newer JD pickers have a 55 gallon barrel of grease for the header spindles mounted on them, and it uses up that 55 gallon drum in 1 week, according to a guy I talked to who had them, then switched to strippers. They also have to carry a ton of water on board to moisten the spindles so they grab the cotton better.) all over SW Oklahoma. Most are out to pasture, but some are still in use. Here is a photo of one of ours. It has the 433I turbo diesel. Someone asked about variable speed drive and hydrostat....all of the 860s were variable speed as far as I know. I'm not sure if it was an option or not on the later 880s, but ours are hydro. I've never seen a variable speed 880. It's an older photo. That's me standing on the platform of the module builder!
Here is a photo from 2015 of a buddy's 860. They use the same engines as the One-Ninety's. He has 3 of them and his cousin has a slick 880.
And here is a link to a "not the best in the world" video I shot of him stripping that day. It looks best if you turn the quality up to 720. This guy is pretty awesome. Kind of my role model when it comes to farming with Allis. I'm hoping one summer he'll let me run his N6 and plow with his 7000 series tractors or his 8550! That would be the best ever! I'd upload a photo of his module builder and boll buggy hooked to his 7045 and 7050, but they are those .PNG files, and it won't let me upload them.
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Creston M: Thanks for posting pictures of your two 880 strippers, and your friends 860 stripper. All 3 of them are nice looking machines in great shape. The picture of the 860 Stripper could be on the cover of the AC brochure for the strippers. Looking forward to seeing video's of them run in the fall.
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 7:11pm |
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On Dothan Al craigslist there's a allis chalmers cotton stripper for 4000.00
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Posted: 08 Feb 2018 at 9:56pm |
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Bringing this one back Creston! Good pics.
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