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Dale 
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 Topic: Engine oil? change intervals? hyd oil ?
Posted: 07 May 2010 at 6:56pm |
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I think I've seen posts at some point in time on engine oil issues, but here goes again. Done spring planting and its going to rain tomorrow so maybe a good time to do oil and filter changes. My Agco dealer is about 8 miles farther than local JD dealer and closes 1/2 hour sooner. Was running late and needed oil for my Allis 210 and 220 and my JD 4240. Wasn't going to make it to Agco dealer on time so I bought at JD dealer- Plus 50 II 15W-40 engine oil. Anyone have any thoughts or advice on using it in my Allis'. Also, any thoughts on oil change intervals. I generally do in spring after planting (takes me to after harvest), then do it again before freeze up and then run until after planting. Regarding hyd/transmission oil, the JD parts guy said that hydraulic oil differences between the different manufacturers is more critical. What modern hydraulic/transmission oil is recommended for Allis 426 and 301 engines? Any thoughts anyone?
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Coke-in-MN
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Location: Afton MN
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Posted: 07 May 2010 at 7:03pm |
The 15/40 oil seems to be what most diesel engine mfg use now. A good brand name oil sold in dealers is probably packed by major oil company. Like wally world selling Shell Rotella, but i would not buy Wally world oil itself.
As far as trans-hyd, should be a listing of what specs the oil meets somewhere on lable, or listing on site if it meets JD and AC specs.
Use of a hour meeter to record time intervals is a good idea, as well as oil sampeling if you are dealing with large amounts of oil per change.
Edited by Coke-in-MN - 07 May 2010 at 7:05pm
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 07 May 2010 at 10:25pm |
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Many Hydraulic- transmission oils meet multiple specs. That is real common these days. I would not think the JD dealer would make a statement like that. I would be willing to bet the oil Jd sells for the 4240 also meets the AC 821 spec.
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49 WF
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Posted: 07 May 2010 at 10:30pm |
Your local Cat dealer will have oil samples for around 15 bucks, very usefull information from a oil sample.
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Hurst
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Posted: 07 May 2010 at 10:44pm |
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JD Plus 50 15w40 was one of the best dino diesel oils out there last time I saw an analysis on Bob Is the Oil Guy website. Very strong additive package. I'm not sure if they changed the formulation from the CI-4+ that was the latest I knew of. I would be fine running that oil for the usual OCI (100-150 hours).
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Posted: 07 May 2010 at 10:46pm |
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Ive been using Mobile Delvac 1300 in my 7050 and 7060, and changing every 300 hours or so. I use Orchelns brand of hydraulic oil for the transmission and hydraulics, but have used JD hytran in my 7050 in a pinch. The JD hydraulic oil seems thinner than others.
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Hurst
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Posted: 08 May 2010 at 7:21am |
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I believe JD makes 2 different weights of hytran. One is the standard weight, and the other is a low viscosity version. Last time I saw it in the dealership at home it was pretty clearly labeled. I believe the low viscosity stuff had a lighter purple label compared to the standard hygard. Either way, that stuff's $$$...
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 08 May 2010 at 8:08am |
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I would probably be using the Universal Tractor Fluid straight from Wal Mart or the local Farm Store--- normally the better prices here.
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