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Sugarmaker 
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 Posted: 28 Apr 2018 at 11:01am |
For some reason I cant get to your pictures??? Sounds like you have done a lot to get this pulling better each year. Have family fun with it! Regards, Chris
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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mjbower
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Posted: 28 Apr 2018 at 7:15pm |
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Yah me to keep pictures coming and keep the pit crew (the boys) around to your lucky to have them involved. Good luck
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UglyAllis
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Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 7:38pm |
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How's everyone doing. Back at it this winter.
Stripping more weight.
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mjbower
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Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 11:35pm |
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Praying for spring but not even ready for it. We have been lucky here in Michigan winter has been gentle. got wheels to build and tires to cut plenty to do. Hope everyone else is surviving.
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UglyAllis
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Posted: 11 Apr 2019 at 7:34pm |
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Made a lot of progress this winter. We built a lightweight center section (replaced the hand clutch housing).
Swapped out the steering shaft.
Widened a set of 28" wheels and built an adjustable Hitch.
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 17 Apr 2019 at 9:51am |
I cant see your pictures anymore.
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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UglyAllis
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Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 11:14am |
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I cant either. I wish this forum was easier to post pics on.
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frnkeore
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Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 11:58am |
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This is a very interesting thread! I can't see them either but, I would love to see the pictures, also.
I have a question for those that know the rules well. How is the tire area calculated. I have a set of 18.4 x 26 tires that I want to put on my D17, for next year.
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 12:17pm |
this is what natpa uses
0-4500# class 200 sq. in. 4501-6500# class 229 sq. in. 6501-9500# class 300 sq. in.
11.2 x 38 – 120 sq. in. 12.4 x 38 – 140 sq. in. 13.6 x 38 – 168 sq. in. 11.2 x 36 – 115 sq. in. 12.4 x 36 – 135 sq. in. 14.9 x 28 – 170 sq. in. 18. 4 x 28 – 126 sq. in. 13.6 x 28 – 145 sq. in. 13.6 x 24 – 130 sq. in. 14.9 x 26 – 144 sq. in. 14.9 x 38 – 200 sq. in. 18.4 x 34 – 284 sq. in. 18.4 x 38 – 300 sq. in. 15.5 x 38 – 189 sq. in. 16.9 x 38 – 252 sq. in. 16.9 x 34 – 229 sq. in. 18.4 x 28 – 250 sq. in.
after some searching 18.4 x 26 bias tire is listed at 242 sq. in. by firestone
so if your pull is using natpa rules your D17 could only pull @ 6501+ lbs!!!! not where you want to be
Edited by CAL(KS) - 05 Jun 2019 at 12:24pm
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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frnkeore
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Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 12:40pm |
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Thank you, very much, Cal. I agree that puts me out any class that I want to pull in.
Are there typo's in that chart? It's lists 18. x 28 at 126 Sq In and 15.5 x 38 at 189 Sq In. Also, i don't see 16.9 x 28 listed. That's what I have now.
Do you have a link to the Firestone chart?
Edited by frnkeore - 05 Jun 2019 at 12:41pm
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Frank
1959 D17 Series I #24001+, '59 D14
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Ferguson TO 35 Deluxe, Oliver 70 and 5 more.
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 12:51pm |
could be a typo i copied and pasted from natpa site.
found the 18.4 x 26 here. you have to go down to bias tire pg 31 it lists others as well. 15.5 x38 shows 189 here
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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frnkeore
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Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 1:59pm |
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Thank you again, I saved it and will look it over, later
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Frank
1959 D17 Series I #24001+, '59 D14
'55 & '59 Ford 850 & 861
Ferguson TO 35 Deluxe, Oliver 70 and 5 more.
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bradley6874
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Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 3:16pm |
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14.9 28 are 183 that’s as big as you can legally go with 28 18.4-26 are 242 15.5 38 are 200 that’s why you see everybody using them
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frnkeore
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Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 7:39pm |
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I did some looking around today and found the 16.9 x 24, listed at 196. Are they used much?
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Frank
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 06 Jun 2019 at 7:47am |
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track conditions play a role and opinions will vary. I think you will find a majority of pullers will run a taller narrow tire as opposed to a short fat tire. i have been told that a short fat tire will "float" and spin sooner than a tall and narrow one, but whether there are facts to back this up who knows? perhaps there is some science to explain the advantages to the footprint being parallel or perpendicular to the travel of the tractor. lots of factors in the winning equation. i havnt done enough pulling to really have an opinion other than i sized my tires to provide the largest footprint i can run and allow me to keep the engine near its rated speed for the class mph.
Edited by CAL(KS) - 06 Jun 2019 at 7:48am
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Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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frnkeore
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Posted: 08 Jun 2019 at 1:37pm |
I've done some research in the Firestone and Goodyear catalogs and came up with these number for Sq In. Some are more and some are less than the NATPA numbers. I can only assume that the NATPA number are the deciding numbers, for what your allowed, for tire size. In that case a larger foot print listed for g & f would be advantageous. The 15.5 x 38, 175, is Goodyear and the 18.4 x 34, 291, is Firestone.  
Edited by frnkeore - 08 Jun 2019 at 1:46pm
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Frank
1959 D17 Series I #24001+, '59 D14
'55 & '59 Ford 850 & 861
Ferguson TO 35 Deluxe, Oliver 70 and 5 more.
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