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 Thank you everyone, I figured you guys would have some pretty good advise. I do enjoy the seat time, sitting around all winter looking at a plowed field has told me that. When your not born into farming you have to do alot of guessing and I wanted to make sure I wasn't throwing money at a bunch of equipment that wouldn't be able to keep up with what I want to do. I really was amazed to here how much people were able to do with the old wd45. I think runnng what I got for now and setting aside the money Allis saves me is a good idea and probably the best way to learn. Thanks again for the good advise I appreciate it all.
 
 
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My grand father in-law does everything with a farmall M and a AC 190XT. My dad use to do everything with a AC B, ford 8N, Ford NAA, JD 301B, and a AC 6080.
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20A of corn at 180 bu pA X $6.00 = $21,600
20A of soya at 045 bu pA X $13.00 = $11,700
Total Gross (NOT NET)                       $33,300
 
If you are going to buy more land, then buy a tractor you will be happy and proud of for 5 to 10 years. Get yourself a 6080FWA, 7020PS or 8010FWA with PS. You can get a UC, WD45D, 190nf, D21, 220FWA, and 6,7, or 8000 series and feel proud to farm with any of them, UNTIL the day you are planting and God makes it rain and hail on your farm catching you on the far end of the field. THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU! My question for you is which of these do you want to be operating when the sky openes up and you are driving back in a high gear? 8010FWA with PS  or a 6080FWA would be two great choices. Two cab filters are better then one, when you are working ground in the spring or cutting stalks in the fall. Some will tell you that you don't need AC in a tractor cab---LOL. You don't need a cab on a tractor today, but will you be shopping for hearing aids tomorrow?
 
My dad moved snow for years with his WD45. Me, I like my 7045 PS with a Westondorf TA46B loader and snowblower on the back. I also have a AC blade on our 7000. After a big snow storm, I use them both. What used to take dad all day to do, take a few hours now and I stay warm doing it.
 
Go for a newer tractor with cab, heat, and air, and more HP and 10 years form now you will be glad you did.
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With just 40 acres the 45 will do just fine.  A lot of farmers covered a lot of ground with less.  On the other hand, big tractors are cheaper then the newer, smaller ones.  I only farm about 140 acres, more then half in hay and I've got a 7580 for tillage work.  I've only got about $6,000 in it and it has a cab, etc. I started with a CA and a DC Case and 40 acres in the early '70's.  Got a tractor with a cab in the late '80s and now the flagship Kubota M110 seven years ago.  Put a couple hundred hours on the M110, in climate controlled comfort, 25 hr. on the 7580. Both do the jobs they were made for.  One piece of advice - Wear hearing protectors on any non cab tractor.  In 20 or 30 years you will know why.  Many of my friends and neighbors have hearing aids, I'm still ok - so far.  
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Originally posted by KC-WD45 KC-WD45 wrote:

 Thank you everyone, I figured you guys would have some pretty good advise. I do enjoy the seat time, sitting around all winter looking at a plowed field has told me that. When your not born into farming you have to do alot of guessing and I wanted to make sure I wasn't throwing money at a bunch of equipment that wouldn't be able to keep up with what I want to do. I really was amazed to here how much people were able to do with the old wd45. I think runnng what I got for now and setting aside the money Allis saves me is a good idea and probably the best way to learn. Thanks again for the good advise I appreciate it all.
 
 
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Your making the smart choice,farming is alot of hard work,tractors break,equipment breaks,ect. But your fresh restore on your WD45 should last you awhile,you go out and buy that 190xt and it lets you sit in the field the next day,your going to wish you had the WD45 back. And if you price parts WD45 parts are a hole lot cheaper than the 190xt.. Save up for a couple of seasons,heck who knows these $ 13.50+/- beans maybe only $ 3.50+/- this year. Farming is a gamble.
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If you already know about ear protection, then good.  If not, then I agree about the prior comments about hearing protection.  I keep a box of those orange foam ear plugs behind my pickup seat.  That makes them handy.  My wife knows when farming is in full swing cause I usually have an open pair & several non opened bags of plugs in my front jeans pocket that she finds before doing laundry.  My Dad ran 2 WDs, farmall M, 2WD45s, D17(here where I started), Cat D4 straight pipe, 2JD4020s, - all open station tractors.  Now at 84, he can't hear good.  If you're alone with him in a quiet place, he can hear, but not around any outside sounds.  When I got a job off the farm, hearing protection was mandatory with hearing tests annually.  I was fortunate to experience the difference.  My kids have always got the talk, "put on your ear muffs or ear plugs - before you get on that tractor or mower."   Good discussion on this farming topic! 
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Originally posted by Unit3 Unit3 wrote:

20A of corn at 180 bu pA X $6.00 = $21,600
20A of soya at 045 bu pA X $13.00 = $11,700
Total Gross (NOT NET)                       $33,300
 
If you are going to buy more land, then buy a tractor you will be happy and proud of for 5 to 10 years. Get yourself a 6080FWA, 7020PS or 8010FWA with PS. You can get a UC, WD45D, 190nf, D21, 220FWA, and 6,7, or 8000 series and feel proud to farm with any of them, UNTIL the day you are planting and God makes it rain and hail on your farm catching you on the far end of the field. THIS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU! My question for you is which of these do you want to be operating when the sky openes up and you are driving back in a high gear? 8010FWA with PS  or a 6080FWA would be two great choices. Two cab filters are better then one, when you are working ground in the spring or cutting stalks in the fall. Some will tell you that you don't need AC in a tractor cab---LOL. You don't need a cab on a tractor today, but will you be shopping for hearing aids tomorrow?
 
My dad moved snow for years with his WD45. Me, I like my 7045 PS with a Westondorf TA46B loader and snowblower on the back. I also have a AC blade on our 7000. After a big snow storm, I use them both. What used to take dad all day to do, take a few hours now and I stay warm doing it.
 
Go for a newer tractor with cab, heat, and air, and more HP and 10 years form now you will be glad you did.
I think this is one of the better posts .. .To make a buck you need to get things done in a timely fasion . I may  have missed something but you certainly work (off ) the farm .. so do it with something that gives you some comfort . My 7040 we   ordered w o air .. cause my mom bitched that her house didnt have air cond ..  you can get around that .. 
 IF i were you i,d watch sales for say 7040,s or 7060,s   .....they dont bring that much .. plus you could always pull in the local tractor pull .......  
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When I was a kid we did that much with a WC, 2 bottom IH trailer plow, a pull type disk. a two row planter.  Later we got a sprayer.  We truck farmed.  Hand planted everything but sweet corn and pop corn.
 
It just depends on how much work you want to do, and how modern you want your equipment! 
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 If you only have 15 acres plowed and ready for planting in the next year, use what you've got, keep it simple. Forget no till for now, cultivate, and walk the rows and pull a few weeds. Have fun, and you won't be so likely to get overwhelmed.  This will get you going, and give you time to consider your crop plans for the other 25 acres, and what you can do, or what you need to make it profitable. My .02
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Hears a point i want to make. If you ever seen the promo video for a allis chalmers B it was advertised for the small farmer with 100 acres or less. I know things have changed but 40 acres ma seem like alot with a wd-45 but think what 80 acres seemed like to a guy with a B. thats my 2 cents
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 agree with KevinON. i would go with a 180 or 185 they are very dependable tractors and dont suck alot of fuel and they are not to big or too small. i have a friend who has a 7050 on a 100 acre farm and they only do hay.  but we have a 185 and we have pulled a John Deere 15' 750 no till drill with no problem. our farm is about 210 acres plus other that our 
neigbors let us farm we only do hay and a little big of alfalfa
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ya'll wanna talk overkill? right now, untill i retire from my job in the big city, i have all but 70 acres in CRP. that remaining 70 acres are taken care of by: 7080, 7010, 190 xt, 180, and a few other smaller tractors, 2- caseIH combines, a 1460 and a 1440, 6 and 8 row planters, 18 and 22 ft disks, 3-4-&5 bottom plows, 60 ft self propelled hagie sprayer, 2- 500 plus grain trucks..(just sold my semi) 5 300 bu gravity wagons, i still have my 2 gleaner combines, a "G" and a "K". a new holland baler with accumalater, plus other farm equipment. burn about 4-500 gal of fuel a year.  now...THAT'S overkill! lol
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A D17, with the WD45 as the #2 tractor,  would be a perfect addition to the setup to farm 40 acres IMHO.
 
D17 is small enough to let you enjoy eating dirt and getting a tan, cheap enough to be affordable, and large enough to keep you timely in everything.
 
With the WD45 as a backup, you would be set.
 
Good luck!
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KC-WD45, I am in a similar situation as you. I currently own 50 acres with about 40 tillable. It's hard to justify spending a lot on eguipment for that amount of acreage, but the good thing about it is that you can always sell the machinery if you decide it isn't worth it. Personally, I am enjoying the heck out of it as a hobby and am considering adding a Gleaner combine to the ever growing lineup of equipment. Overkill-probably, but if it's what you love to do in your spare time then it's worth every penny you spend. I own a 6060, D17 and a WD. They all get used for certain tasks, but the 6060 gets the most usage because it has a cab with air & heat so I use it for snow removal too. It's nice to have air on those 95 degree days when you are making hay after working all day at your real job in town (at the machine shop in my case.) I guess it depends on what you plan to grow for crops as far as what other eguipment would be considered "essential".
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