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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 21 Jan 2021 at 7:55pm |
Would/do any you guys run Harvest King (Rural King) brand engine oil in your vehicle engines ? I'm interested in their 5W20 conventional. Thanks
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steve(ill)
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Farm Stores and others like Wal Mart will contract with OIL Manufacturers for a period of time to supply them oil... In the past CITGO and WARREN have supplied Rural King.. Both are good oils.......... all oils should meet a "API SPEC" .... I think the latest is SM... look at the jug and it should say SL, SN, or SM.... anything older is an out of date spec.. If it has no API sign, DONT BUY.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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FREEDGUY
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Thanks Steve, I was surprised at the $10/5 qt jug of HK .
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john(MI)
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That circle is a little bitty thing on the back of the container.
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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446
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Coke-in-MN
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been buying oil at Fleet Farm and their house brand is now made by CITGO - they use to have the CITGO labeled oil on shelf also and when one looked at the API specs both met the same but house brand was 1/4 less in cost and even better when they ran specials .
Then thinking back when I had the Western Snow Plow on my old truck my Father in Law gave me several cans of ATF he had for older Ford car (oil was Ford Spec) I used ATF in plow hydraulics and opened one of the cans to add to plow unit - it was about -10 deg out and went to pour oil into unit - it was like a string - didn't pour but was thick gummy semi-fluid - that was Target Stores house branded oil - So off brands do not always meet all specifications and care is needed when buying |
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Dave H
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good point there Coke. So now am really confused.
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HD6GTOM
Orange Level Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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When I owned my fuel business, I spent quite a bit of time in oil labs watching and participating in oil testing. Cheap oil usually just barely meets the specks for the equipment on the label. The name brand oils more than exceeded the equipment specs. The oils I sold had run millions of miles over the road and hundreds of hours in the fields during testing. If you have older equipment I'd run it. New half million dollar tractors I'd not go that route.
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steve(ill)
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I used ATF in plow hydraulics and opened one of the cans to add to plow unit - it was about -10 deg out and went to pour oil into unit - it was like a string - didn't pour but was thick gummy semi-fluid - that was Target Stores house branded oil -
So off brands do not always meet all specifications and care is needed when buying thats right... "ATF" is not a SPEC, it is a refined hydraulic oil for older transmission use... If it said MERCON or DEXTRON it would MEET THAT SPEC......another example is "HYDRAULIC FLUID" is not a spec... some may or may not meet the ALLIS SPEC of 821...( like JD 303) . You have to read the back.
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FREEDGUY
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The API "small circle" rating according to bouncing jugs is "SP" on the back of the jug !!
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jaybmiller
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ANY oil is better than NO oil......
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FREEDGUY
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That statement is worth it's weight in crude !!
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JohnColo
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I saw something on Facebook a week or so ago about a lawsuit overe "303" oil, anyone heard anything about that? |
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FREEDGUY
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I thought that the "303" oil pertained to CIH ??
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Ray54
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The ambulance chasers had a add in California Farm Bureau weekly paper, wanting people join a class action suit if you bought the O'Reilly auto parts store brand.
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Thad in AR.
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I use Oreilly’s store brand.
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steve(ill)
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wasnt the story that the original 303 was based on Whale Oil ??? And 303 does not really meet much of any "hydraulic oil specs".... it is just "oil"...
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steve(ill)
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The truth about 303 oilIn the 1960’s, John Deere created the 303 oil that was used as an effective, high quality tractor hydraulic fluid for anti-wear on some heavy duty equipment. However, in the 1970’s the popular John Deere product was regulated and banned due a key ingredient being sperm whale oil. Because the whales are an endangered species and the sperm whale oil was outlawed, John Deere reformulated their oils and eliminated 303. Some distributors and retailers are allegedly using the 303 marketing when some of the oils may be damaging to vehicles and allegedly don’t meet manufacturing standards. again, the MORAL TO THE STORY, is READ THE SPEC ON back of THE JUG ! Edited by steve(ill) - 23 Jan 2021 at 9:57pm |
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