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Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 12:55pm |
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So how do you get rid of these things
Guy came in shop. He's a small time jack of all trades kinda guy. Any way he acquired an electric car he was going to scrap, took the batteries out and took to scrap yard, they wouldn't take them, he took to few places and nobody will take them. So how are these cars good for the environment. Anybody else try getting rid of them.
Maybe I should put this in political area
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Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 1:37pm |
Find a deserted road and park them! ---have ride pick you up and forget you ever was on that road!--Another way,--Deep six them in a hidden place!
The very best way is to not get stuck with them in the first place!
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Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 1:39pm |
Put them on eBay, Craigslist or Face Book Market Place.
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Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 1:50pm |
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 4:00pm |
Up here, take batteries back to dealership tht sells the car. They are responsible for them, heck we pay a TAX on those batteries as well as copiers,PC,paint,etc.
Frankly, just leave at roadside, put $50 sign on them , wait 2 hrs..they'll be gone !
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Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 8:51pm |
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Wiggle a few wires around and make a toaster.
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Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 9:08pm |
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Up here, take batteries back to dealership tht sells the car. They are responsible for them, heck we pay a TAX on those batteries as well as copiers,PC,paint,etc.
Frankly, just leave at roadside, put $50 sign on them , wait 2 hrs..they'll be gone !
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Holy crap I'm not sure what goes on up north but that sounds like another government tombstone. Isn't there copper or such in these things thats worth something?
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Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 9:24pm |
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I'v been asking that question since they came out. What is the real environmental cost of an electric car as opposed to the same car in a gas driven version.
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Posted: 24 Jan 2020 at 11:27pm |
Kansas99 wrote:
jaybmiller wrote:
Up here, take batteries back to dealership tht sells the car. They are responsible for them, heck we pay a TAX on those batteries as well as copiers,PC,paint,etc.
Frankly, just leave at roadside, put $50 sign on them , wait 2 hrs..they'll be gone !
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Holy crap I'm not sure what goes on up north but that sounds like another government tombstone. Isn't there copper or such in these things thats worth something?
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No, I don't think there is appreciable copper. but what is in them depends on the technology used, lead acid would be mostly lead, and whatever lead becomes in acid. I don't know of any battery with copper but I could be wrong
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 4:07am |
Not lead but Lithium. And it takes tons of the ore, to make one battery, for an electric car! 
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 5:36am |
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I understand the battery problem but I've never looked at these cars I just figured there was electric motors to drive the wheels and wires feeding them that would be copper or aluminum but maybe those parts just don't have enough value to justify the expense of getting rid of the batteries.
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 6:12am |
clean (#1) copper is $3 a pound up here, CLEAN is the keyword, goes waaay down if not CLEAN. mixed tin is about 7 cents a pound. frankly it's not worth hauling junk cars to scrapyard. Not a lot of $$ metals in an electric car unless you TOTALLY strip and sort. They're built light, lots of plastic, thin tin and lithium batteries are a PITB. Regular lead acid ones are tossed into shreder then magically sorted into plastic and metals, Lord knows where the ACID goes !! Overall recycling is a joke up here,most gets repackaged and dumped into landfill. Guv PAYS retaillers to toss BNIB stuff into landfill, really, saw that on TV, read the tax forms online ! There's going to be 1,000s of them Ecar batteries to deal with though, only last 6-7 years up here, brrrrrrrr and salt !
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 6:16am |
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Our local Scrapper turned down FIVE wrecked Prius so far, cannot get rid of the Batteries so will not accept them unless the batteries are REMOVED. car itself whole(less battery) is worth around $50 as scrap per him.
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 7:22am |
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Put them for sale waaaaaay out by the road. The druggies will soon remove them free of charge.
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 11:13am |
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Maybe park by the road with a "FREE" sign on the car???
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 11:44am |
I'm always impressed with how fast stuff I put out roadside 'magically' goes away ! I used to put 'free' signs with the stuff, not anumore as the locals know, whatever's there they can have. Bush cords of wood, live edge wood, skids, racking, riders,tires/rims,furniture(solid and ?? wood ) it all goes...might take an hour ,a day or a week..it ALL goes ! Saves me the $20 / load and hour for me to haul to 'dump'.
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 12:33pm |
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If I put something to the curb, within a hour the city will be whining on the phone about it. It used to take a few days to get a letter. Not any more.
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 12:47pm |
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I've had better luck with a for sale sign. It gets stolen faster that way
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Posted: 25 Jan 2020 at 10:19pm |
plummerscarin wrote:
I've had better luck with a for sale sign. It gets stolen faster that way |
I once put a pickup truck for sale out in front of my place. One day I'm sitting in house and see someone looking at it. They were sure there a long time and not coming up to house, so I go to walk down. They take off. When I got there I discovered they had all but one screw out of the grill.
What is wrong with people??
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Posted: 26 Jan 2020 at 9:12am |
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Posted: 26 Jan 2020 at 9:36am |
Yes sir. While people were home and vehicles in the yard. Some people have nerve.
Only thing that saved my grill was one screw was seized and he couldn't get it out, LOL
Funny part is I had on the sign...any offer takes it. He could have gave me 5 bucks and drove it away, LOL
I just tried to list my Jetta on Kijiji (our Canadian Craiglist) and I had to remove the add after 2 days, I couldn't take it any more.
All I had was east indians that could barely speak english calling me and wanting me to put it in a shipping container and stupid stuff like that. It can rot in my yard.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2020 at 10:21am |
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I would imagine that in order to take these electric car batteries they will have to be OSHA and EPA certified to do so. What is probably going to happen is some new poor unsuspecting scrapper will attempt to take them apart expecting a gold mine inside and end up starting a fire that the fire department won't be able to put out for quite some time.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2020 at 10:33am |
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Electric car batteries are designed for fast charge/fast discharge.
When they no longer can do that, they are at about 1/2 life.
They can then be used in a solar powder setup. Slow charge/slow discharge.
That's one of Tesla strong points.
They are building up a large supply of 1/2 life car batteries, that will plug right into all the solar units they are selling.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2020 at 12:06pm |
JayB,
Leaving Kingston a few years back while visiting my son, took a drive out in the country where I knew I could catch up to the 401 eventually. Seen a nice milk can with lid at side of road, stopped as someone was in the garage and asked if it was there as for sale? Lady said her husband died, former dairy farmer and she was sitting it out at the road in hopes it would be taken by someone.
I was that someone and it is far and away the nicest of the four I have, zero rust and actually resides in the house at the front door.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 4:42pm |
Dang Kingston a loooooong hop,skip and 2 jumps from FW !! Got an arm's reach relative in Kingston, NOT the fed jail, either ! Can't be a lot of real milk cans left, yeesh.....I memebe rthe electric milk trucks though !
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Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 7:15pm |
(Reuters) - General Motors Co will invest $2.2 billion in its Detroit-Hamtramck assembly plant to build electric trucks and sport utility vehicles, a move that would create 2,200 jobs, the No.1 U.S. automaker said on Monday. The company said its first electric truck will be a pickup, whose production will begin late next year and will be followed by a self-driving vehicle, Cruise Origin. GM last week reut.rs/30V6MfE unveiled a prototype of a driverless vehicle for ride-sharing service. Reuters had reported last year that GM plans to build a new family of premium electric vehicles at the plant beginning late 2021, possibly reviving its Hummer brand. The company had said it would invest $7.7 billion in its U.S. plants over the next four years. The Detroit-Hamtramck plant currently operates one production shift and builds the Cadillac CT6 and the Chevrolet Impala sedans. The plant will be idled for several months at the end of February as GM starts renovations for the production of electric trucks and SUVs. Ford is also expected to begin building premium electric pickups in late 2021 at a Detroit-area assembly plant. Ford and GM expect annual electric truck production to hit around 40,000 units by 2024, analysts have said. Reporting by Ankit Ajmera in Bengaluru; Editing by Vinay Dwivedi and Arun Koyyur
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Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 8:51pm |
steve(ill) wrote:
(Reuters) - General Motors Co will invest $2.2 billion in its Detroit-Hamtramck assembly plant to build electric trucks and sport utility vehicles, a move that would create 2,200 jobs, the No.1 U.S. automaker said on Monday. The company said its first electric truck will be a pickup, whose production will begin late next year and will be followed by a self-driving vehicle, Cruise Origin. GM last week reut.rs/30V6MfE unveiled a prototype of a driverless vehicle for ride-sharing service. Reuters had reported last year that GM plans to build a new family of premium electric vehicles at the plant beginning late 2021, possibly reviving its Hummer brand. The company had said it would invest $7.7 billion in its U.S. plants over the next four years. The Detroit-Hamtramck plant currently operates one production shift and builds the Cadillac CT6 and the Chevrolet Impala sedans. The plant will be idled for several months at the end of February as GM starts renovations for the production of electric trucks and SUVs. Ford is also expected to begin building premium electric pickups in late 2021 at a Detroit-area assembly plant. Ford and GM expect annual electric truck production to hit around 40,000 units by 2024, analysts have said. Reporting by Ankit Ajmera in Bengaluru; Editing by Vinay Dwivedi and Arun Koyyur
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Ford and GM expect annual electric truck production to hit around 40,000 units by 2024, analysts have said.
Sounds like a pretty big sales estimate to me. How many of you pickup owners would buy a electric pickup?
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Posted: 27 Jan 2020 at 9:16pm |
hmmm.. create 2200 jobs ? after killing 1000s up here in Oshawa.... all GM did was MOVE jobs ,south of the 49th... and save BIG on taxes,salaries and pensions...
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