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Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 10:06am |
I came across an early combine in a fence row. It's been outside for years, but it is one of the early ones with the rounded sheet metal. Sorry, I did not get a chance to take pictures and didn't know where to find the serial number on these earlier machines at the time (I do now after some internet research).
In order to get it home I would have to get the spoke wheels off and have new tires put on, and drag it ~100 miles home. The guy wanted me to come pull any parts I wanted off of it before he scraps it, but now I'm wondering if I should try to save the whole combine. It has the rounded sheet metal, elevator inside the bin, and a whole bunch of other little things unique to the earlier harvesters.
My limit in the past has been about 20 miles for dragging them home.
I'm not sure how unique these are other than I have only ever seen the one in person at Hutchinson. I found a few other posts on the forum where guys had a handful. Is it worth the trouble of dragging the whole thing home to save it?
Edited by wjohn - 04 Aug 2024 at 11:24am
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55allis
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Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 1:12pm |
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Well if it gets scraped it will be one less on the earth…
Is it an All Crop?
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Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 2:38pm |
 55allis wrote:
Well if it gets scraped it will be one less on the earth…
Is it an All Crop?
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I did not want to refer to it as an All-Crop because I am not sure of the serial number, but more or less, yes. They didn't start calling them "All-Crop Harvesters" until 1936 or so from what I have read on here and seen in literature. The earlier ones were called "High Speed Combines."
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Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 3:36pm |
This the beastie?
Made in '38, '39, and '40, 15,000 or more of them...
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Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 3:54pm |
DiyDave wrote:
This the beastie? |
No sir, not a 40. This combine is one of the earlier ones that eventually became called the 60.
It's like what is shown at this timestamp here:
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Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 6:46pm |
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Drag/Pull it home. You may decide it was not worthwhile; but you will always wonder (if you don't bring it home). Herb(GA)
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Posted: 04 Aug 2024 at 10:59pm |
I found this, hope it helps!!! https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/hauling-a-combine_topic126084.html
Edited by 55allis - 04 Aug 2024 at 11:01pm
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Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 6:12am |
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Good luck with the combine, hope you can save it!
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Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 6:24am |
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The rounded ones where called a camelback. There was not an unloading auger, just a flip over spout. Can you get a picture from the history walk that was done at the Hutch show?
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Posted: 05 Aug 2024 at 11:57pm |
Thanks guys!
Mike, would you drag it home? I'm not big on having stuff around that I wouldn't use, but I may have to bend the rules on this one. Did drag an okay looking 63 plow home today.
Lon, I didn't take any good pics of it while I was there (sure wish I had now!) but I did find some neat ones on the internet. Here's one of them.
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Posted: 06 Aug 2024 at 5:51am |
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That is a camel back. very early and hard to find. Does it have the square tube above the cylinder like in the picture?
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Posted: 06 Aug 2024 at 8:03am |
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I probably would not, hate to see it go to scrap but those things take up a lot of space. Pull type combines really aren't 'my thing'. And, I've got a backlog of projects around here about a mile long already!
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Posted: 06 Aug 2024 at 6:27pm |
Lon(MN) wrote:
That is a camel back. very early and hard to find. Does it have the square tube above the cylinder like in the picture? |
I don't think it did. From what I was able to find, that was something they did a recall on, or changed very early on in production?
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Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 7:05am |
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If you are up to saving it, Always a project moving a combine. It is rare.
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Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 11:24am |
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A High Speed/All-Crop Harvester has been on my “want to find” list for some time, but as Lon has said, they are rare. They have their nuances that make them inconvenient and antiquated compared to the model 60s even just a few years newer, so a lot were scrapped. Would be great to see some photos of it.
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Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 11:28am |
wjohn wrote:
I don't think it did. From what I was able to find, that was something they did a recall on, or changed very early on in production? |
Yes, the 1935 High Speed and the 1936 All-Crop Harvester had it, it’s a re-cleaning device for the tailings. The 1937 All-Crop did not have it, as they tended to shake apart. “Camelback” is a common term people use for the combines but it’s a slang rather than official title.
Edited by CrestonM - 07 Aug 2024 at 11:29am
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Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 6:50pm |
You guys sure are enablers. I was hoping to hear that there were hundreds of these still hanging around and I could just steal parts and let it go to the crusher. Guess I will see if I can get the thing jacked up to pull the spoked wheels off, and get some tires put on if the rims are still okay.
Towing it at 20-25 MPH will make for a long afternoon if it can make the trip.
Edited by wjohn - 07 Aug 2024 at 6:54pm
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Posted: 07 Aug 2024 at 9:46pm |
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Your best bet will be to get new tires for the spoked wheels if the rims are good. You can put later model 60 rims on but you have to change the hub also. These combines didn’t have wheel bearings but rather brass bushings, so make sure you grease them well and probably be best to stay under 30 mph. Grease is your friend with these hubs, I’d give them a few shots every 15 miles if it was me.
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