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jerbob 
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Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 6:36pm |
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While going through my HD16 which I have had for 2 weeks, found the following:
1.Final drives very low on fluid in both sides. Can see fluid but way below the plug.
2. Hydraulic fluid low. Again you can see it on the dip stick bit just.
3. Generator not charging batteries. Found belts loose enough to almost take off pulls. Bracket froze but PB Blaster over 4 days and a 4x4 helped get bracket released and belts tightened. :)
4. Air filter trashed. Has the Donaldson dry filter. Took 3 hours to get it all apart. Filter packed.
5. Battery cables cracked and several breaks. Just picked up 30' of 1awg welding cable and will replace all cable and connections with soldered terminals and a pair of new batteries.
6. Cool surprise on the front end. The top front grill was taken off to check radiator and oil cooler. Found a pair of stock headlights hiding behind the covered up headlight openings. Complete pair with wiring and brackets. The headlight buckets are busted up and the bulbs missing but pleased brackets and all wiring is there.
7. Not doing much with the froze track adjusters but got them to take grease and am going to let them sit awhile and put pressure on them a little at s time each day to see if they will must loose and NOT BLOW THE SEALS INNTHE PROCESS.
Took hammer and chisels to old grease, dirt and what ever else has turned to stone around all areas of the tracks and idler arms and yokes.
Loving every minute of it!!!
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LeonR2013
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Posted: 02 Sep 2017 at 11:06pm |
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Good work Jerbob.
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dadsdozerhd5b
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Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 6:41am |
in my opinion, 1 AWG battery cables might be a little on the light side for that big 6 cylinder, especially when it is cold. Maybe run 2 if you have enough. Better to go bigger than smaller on those, saves the solenoid and brushes in the long run. I go with at least 00. Good luck!
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HD5B, HD5G, (2) FARMALL A's, CUB. DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, IGNORE THE LAUGHTER. FLANNEL IS ALWAYS IN STYLE.
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jerbob
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Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 7:56am |
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Hi Dads. Well the background story here was I was going to use #00 welding cable. Lug bolt ends all around soldered and ends shrink wrapped. My brother in law heard me talking about rewriring the batteries and the next day he showed up with 30' of #1 AWG welfing cable. He had it at work.
I plan to use 00 size as that is what came with the tractor originally. Thank you for the input. I AGREE WITH YOU.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 1:40pm |
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Seeing it's 24 volt to starter - you can use a smaller size than many thing of using on 12 Volt or 6 Volt
One reason the higher voltage is the less amps the wire has to carry
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Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel.
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jerbob
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Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 3:09pm |
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I've read that on some posts on this forum. As I have access to the 00 welding cable I think I will go with it even if a little overkill. Thank
You Coke-in-MN
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donoman
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Posted: 03 Sep 2017 at 11:05pm |
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I always use welding cable as it is alot more flexible , if need be I poke it thru used hydraulic hose to prevent tractor burnouts
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jerbob
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Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 6:55am |
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Wow,, now that's a neat idea donoman. It's a good one. Thank you.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 10:14am |
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I found that reinforced plastic garden hose worked real well to protect cables as well as fuel hoses . For Hydraulic line protection I have been using collapsible hose used on drainage pumps - discharge hoses for portable pumps - blue / green reinforced plastic .
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Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel.
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jerbob
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Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 12:45pm |
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These are great ideas guys. I will be using these ideas when I route the cables behind the seat and under floor plates to the starter.
Thanks guys.
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Posted: 04 Sep 2017 at 6:31pm |
Before using hyd hose, consider that it has wire braid, between the plies of rubber. In the wrong situation, it could be possible to get crushed, and short. There are videos on how to make insulating wrap, out of common black plastic water pipe, I'll see if I can find one... 
Tah Dah:
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jerbob
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Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 8:16am |
 jerbob wrote:
While going through my HD16 which I have had for 2 weeks, found the following:
1.Final drives very low on fluid in both sides. Can see fluid but way below the plug.
2. Hydraulic fluid low. Again you can see it on the dip stick bit just.
3. Generator not charging batteries. Found belts loose enough to almost take off pulls. Bracket froze but PB Blaster over 4 days and a 4x4 helped get bracket released and belts tightened. :)
4. Air filter trashed. Has the Donaldson dry filter. Took 3 hours to get it all apart. Filter packed.
5. Battery cables cracked and several breaks. Just picked up 30' of 1awg welding cable and will replace all cable and connections with soldered terminals and a pair of new batteries.
6. Cool surprise on the front end. The top front grill was taken off to check radiator and oil cooler. Found a pair of stock headlights hiding behind the covered up headlight openings. Complete pair with wiring and brackets. The headlight buckets are busted up and the bulbs missing but pleased brackets and all wiring is there.
7. Not doing much with the froze track adjusters but got them to take grease and am going to let them sit awhile and put pressure on them a little at s time each day to see if they will must loose and NOT BLOW THE SEALS INNTHE PROCESS.
Took hammer and chisels to old grease, dirt and what ever else has turned to stone around all areas of the tracks and idler arms and yokes.
Loving every minute of it!!!
Per item #6, what I found when I took off the top front grill cover. LIGHTS!!
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Posted: 05 Sep 2017 at 8:18am |
jerbob wrote:
jerbob wrote:
While going through my HD16 which I have had for 2 weeks, found the following:
1.Final drives very low on fluid in both sides. Can see fluid but way below the plug.
2. Hydraulic fluid low. Again you can see it on the dip stick bit just.
3. Generator not charging batteries. Found belts loose enough to almost take off pulls. Bracket froze but PB Blaster over 4 days and a 4x4 helped get bracket released and belts tightened. :)
4. Air filter trashed. Has the Donaldson dry filter. Took 3 hours to get it all apart. Filter packed.
5. Battery cables cracked and several breaks. Just picked up 30' of 1awg welding cable and will replace all cable and connections with soldered terminals and a pair of new batteries.
6. Cool surprise on the front end. The top front grill was taken off to check radiator and oil cooler. Found a pair of stock headlights hiding behind the covered up headlight openings. Complete pair with wiring and brackets. The headlight buckets are busted up and the bulbs missing but pleased brackets and all wiring is there.
7. Not doing much with the froze track adjusters but got them to take grease and am going to let them sit awhile and put pressure on them a little at s time each day to see if they will must loose and NOT BLOW THE SEALS INNTHE PROCESS.
Took hammer and chisels to old grease, dirt and what ever else has turned to stone around all areas of the tracks and idler arms and yokes.
Loving every minute of it!!!
Per item #6, what I found when I took off the top front grill cover. LIGHTS!!
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