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shackratt ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 06 Jan 2016 Location: Patriot Indiana Points: 70 |
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What size disc should a AC 180 pull in a wheeled disc? I was thinking an 8' should do the trick or is it too big? Looking for advice from the Pros" thanks sam
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AC 180, TO-20, Case 580B Case 450 dozer
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wheatbreeder ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Harrow, Ontario Points: 581 |
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it should pull a 10-12 ft disc
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Farm stuff 8050,6690,175,F2,5050,WD
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shackratt ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 06 Jan 2016 Location: Patriot Indiana Points: 70 |
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That's good to know. Thanks wheatbreeded.. sam
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AC 180, TO-20, Case 580B Case 450 dozer
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ctbowles58 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: Clarksville, MO Points: 2249 |
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should pull a 12ft easy.
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190XT 2WD45 WF D15 D14 CA BIG10 302 & 303 bailers 77G rake 80R mower 6 plows and alot more
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21847 |
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In the day, when that tractor was new, a 16 ft disc with 16 inch blades weighing probably 50 to 60 pounds per blade would have been kind of the norm. By comparison, we pulled 13 ft with a D-17.
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shackratt ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 06 Jan 2016 Location: Patriot Indiana Points: 70 |
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Thanks Guys I am no Farmer by any means. I am just gearing up to work my land and make some deer very happy. At least until they make me happy.. Sam
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SHAMELESS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EAST NE Points: 29486 |
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I pulled a 14 ft tandem with mine pulled fine (hills)
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jb from md ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Location: Keymar MD Points: 450 |
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we pull this one, I think its 12' or so with a 185. does a great job...Jb
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8050 FWA, 190XT, 185, Styled wc, Unstyled wc, (2)C, (2)WD45NF, WD45WF, WD,416h, 716h, 312h, 8070 pedal.
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Sagefarmer ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Apr 2013 Location: North Carolina Points: 81 |
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We had a 185 and pulled a 12' for years. Wish we still had that tractor. It had a factory canopy.
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KY poorboy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Location: West KY Points: 933 |
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jb, is that a 2300 disk?
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ac45dave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 May 2015 Location: SE(IN) Points: 1345 |
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54 wd-45gas ; 56 wd-45d N/F w/fact p/s ; 63 d-17 sIII N/F gas ; 60 D14 N/F ; 67 d-17 sIV N/F gas ; 63D15 sII W/F; 39rc#667 ; 2021 massey 4710 fwa ; gravely 2 wheel tractors
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shackratt ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 06 Jan 2016 Location: Patriot Indiana Points: 70 |
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Ac45dave yeah so I am finding out they are really hard to find. So i guess "bigger is better" is the way i will have to go. my place is an old dairy farm that got subdivided before i got to it. I am trying to buy up more of the old farm ground with some success but slow progress. |
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Allis dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 3042 |
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We always pulled an 18' behind the 4020. Allis's are better, so an 18' should be fine.
But seriously, a 14' would be best I'd think. I don't think the Allis engineers wanted you to run duals on a 180 so I think that in soft ground you might have traction trouble with a 16'. 14' you'd probably we ok tractionwise. Edited by Allis dave - 14 Jan 2016 at 7:03am |
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thendrix ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2013 Location: Fairmount GA Points: 5086 |
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Allis dave touched on a good point. Shackratt stated he's not a farmer so let's make sure we inform him on things like loaded tires and weights along with disc sizes. I don't know if they're required for a disc or not but it's better then him having to tell the Mrs "well they said it would work"
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"Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan
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TimNearFortWorth ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |
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180 will safely pull a 12' disc in any soil, without working it very hard (fuel). Up to you on adding rear weight via iron or liquid ballast to prevent wheel slip in the worst conditions.
If you are thinking 8' disc as in a 3-pt., it will play with it and not give the same results as a well built 10-12' wheeled unit where you can get more weight onto the blades. All depends what you want to do (aggressiveness of cutting/depth) and will you be plowing first? Do you just want to "scratch in" some broadcasted seed? Wheeled disc gives more flexibility for me as lighter sandy loam here. Am cutting off old worn out gangs on a A-C snap coupler wheel disc that came in a package of equipment and a D15II. Hangers, bearings and blades are shot so I will buy my own pieces to assemble/hang new gangs under the A-C framework as I want more even control (level depth) when overseeding vs. 3-pt Deere 8' unit used previously. Just buy discs you can easily source parts for . . . . . |
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sjerden ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Location: Illinois Points: 161 |
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I pull a 9' with my little WD. Done so for years.
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shackratt ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 06 Jan 2016 Location: Patriot Indiana Points: 70 |
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Thendrix -- Thanks for the Note and your right! it all comes into play. knowledge is power !! My Ex father-in-law was an A-C man and when I helped him I used his equipment. The ole man taught me a lot over the time we worked his farm together. I only wished i would have listened to him more and more often. Thanks for the advice guys.
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shackratt ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 06 Jan 2016 Location: Patriot Indiana Points: 70 |
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Timnearfortworth--the ground i am working has not been plowed in many years and some probably has never been plowed. I will plow the ground. I like plowing and disking afterwards. Gives me a sense of reason for planting deer food. I have about 20 acres or more that will be food plots. I would never go with a 3pt disc. I don't like the way they work the ground. I like a wheeled disc and with my small acreage an 8' to 12' will do me nicely. I am also going to be looking for a 4 bottom 14 to 16 inch plow to go along with my new setup. Bad thing is my ground is mostly clay and rocks so might break some stuff. I hope not. Thanks for the advice Sam
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jb from md ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Location: Keymar MD Points: 450 |
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Yes it is a 2300 dad bought 30 some years ago. we recently went through it and repainted it, and had new decals made etc. we bought a middle buster from a forum member and its a totally different machine now,,,Jb |
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8050 FWA, 190XT, 185, Styled wc, Unstyled wc, (2)C, (2)WD45NF, WD45WF, WD,416h, 716h, 312h, 8070 pedal.
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KY poorboy ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Aug 2015 Location: West KY Points: 933 |
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I thought it was, but wasn't sure. It is a very nice looking disk!!
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Dmpaul89 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Edwardsville,IL Points: 1689 |
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I have a 14ft light kewanee disk that would fit that tractor right good
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