Deminsions of Hub pusher bolts

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Does anyone have a drawing with the dimensions of the the hub pusher bolts for a 7000 and other tractors?  I was thinking about making a set for my 7000 while I have full machine shop access at college :).  I figured it would make a good Friday or Saturday night project.

Hurst

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	Does anyone have a drawing with the dimensions of the the hub pusher bolts for a 7000 and other tractors? I was thinking about making a set for my 7000 while I have full machine shop access at college :). I figured it would make a good Friday or Saturday night project. Hurst
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Hurst Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hurst Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2009 at 9:51pm
	You don't happen to know the diameter of the bolt (what bolt to start off with) and the turned down portion? I believe if I remember correctly it's a 3/4 bolt. Hurst
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Eldon (WA) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eldon (WA) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2009 at 10:12pm
	3/4-10 bolt with a 1/2" pilot diameter. The bolt will probably have to be a grade 5 for toughness and the pilot would have to be ground down. If you can find an "off the shelf" bolt that can be modified you could probably make a little money producing them....I'm thinking the factory bolts were hardened and then the threads were ground into them. That is how our spindle shafts were made back when I worked as a machinist for a machine tool company.

Hurst Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hurst Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Sep 2009 at 10:31pm
	I'll have to give it a try soon and see what I can come up with. I may cut the threads in the shank of a longer bolt in the lathe after turning down the other end. Hurst
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	Hurst, as usual the Dr. is right. I made a set from grade 5 bolts. They folded like a cheap umbrella. HTH Lloyd

Hurst Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hurst Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 2009 at 7:30am
	Thanks for the tip! Llyod, did you use fully threaded bolts and turn them down or buy partially threaded bolts and cut the threads into them on the shank? Hurst
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	Your best bet would be a grade 8 or better bolt with a rolled thread. ARP might be a good source.

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	Picture Eldon was trying to post. Mike
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	Hurst, I can take a grade 8 full threaded bolt and grind it in my lathe. Dusty

Hurst Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hurst Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 2009 at 1:02pm
	Where do you find full thread grade 8 bolts? I looked on McMaster and didn't see them. Are they something that can ususally be found locally? I'm not really in a dire need of them, just thought it would be something I would make use of the machine shop access. Also have access to CNC mills too... so I gotta think of something I need to make with those too :). I was one of the only freshmen that got into the machine shop class last year (just by luck I guess), and was one of the few if not the only one to get full access. Everyone always asked if I had worked at a machine shop before or something. I just smile and said no, but I've made similar stuff with an angle grinder before, just not as accurately lol. Hurst
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Rawleigh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: White Stone, VA Points: 421	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rawleigh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 2009 at 2:05pm
	How about center drilling a Grade 8 bolt and inserting a harden steel pilot? I hate the mess of grinding! A couple thou interference fit. Freeze the pilot and heat the bolt.

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	I did mine as Rawleigh said, but with a grade 5 bolt. Three inches long, so was full thread. Couldn't find anything tough enough to drill an 8. Anyway, I gave up and bought a set. Lloyd

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Hurst Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Midway, Ky Points: 1213	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hurst Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Sep 2009 at 6:43pm
	I have no problem with turning down the end of a 3/4 bolt on a lathe, I was just thinking about the threaded portion. Not sure where I can find 3/4x5in gr 8 bolt fully threaded to start with. The center drilling idea sounds possible. I do have access to reamers too, so I could get a good interface fit there. Just wondering if I'll have enough wall thickness left to give the threaded section enough strength to pull the hub. Hurst
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	Here is the link for McMaster Carr: http://www.mcmaster.com/#92620a855/=3rykb6

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	They do exist! lol. at $7.50 a piece lol. I guess that's not too bad compared to what ever AGCO wants for them now a days. Hurst
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	You will find McMaster Carr EXCELLENT on delivery as well. They aren't always the cheapest, but they sure have a lot of oddball stuff.