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The real reason the economy is booming is because this money has been put into the economy with no regard to recovering it!
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obviously ALL, yes, ALL, the FREE CHEESE programs need to be axed totally, toss out the UN from NYC, build the wall, bring ALL troops home,'trim' guv departments, use 1 page tax form, stop all foreign help, stop all $$ going to states like CA, NY, etc., stop all 'pork' bills...and the biggy
... demand a BALANCED budget !

BTW the '11 months' is  idiotic...everyone, except democraps KNOW a FISCAL is a year( 365 days though this year 366...).. I'm fairly sure you can get over 1T$ for any 11mths in the past 2 decades...
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I See Tranny still has no concept of how the Economy works, or economics function or how the Nat'l Debt is developed.
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:


The real reason the economy is booming is because this money has been put into the economy with no regard to recovering it!

Guess what the democrats have been doing nothing about this for years and years, hell if we elect one of the free, free, free, free democratic candidates that number will double in 4 years.  I don't think government spending has much to do with our economy anyway, back in 2008 when things crashed the government was spending like crazy and it did not stop the crash.  Plus government spending tends to actually cost dollars because of all the red tape that comes with it.  I would love to see the government cut spending but those politicians on both sides are in love with it.
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the millions the democrats has wasted try to dump trump just adds to it. did you read the reporting 2016. oboma had increased the nat debt more than all other presidents combined. where were you then trammy.
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“ obviously ALL, yes, ALL, the FREE CHEESE programs need to be axed totally, toss out the UN from NYC, build the wall, bring ALL troops home,'trim' guv departments, use 1 page tax form, stop all foreign help, stop all $$ going to states like CA, NY, etc., stop all 'pork' bills...and the biggy
... demand a BALANCED budget !”

California and New York pay more in taxes than they receive in Federal benefits. The wall? Supposed to have been paid for by Mexico.

“BTW the '11 months' is idiotic...everyone, except democraps KNOW a FISCAL is a year( 365 days though this year 366...).. I'm fairly sure you can get over 1T$ for any 11mths in the past 2 decades.”

Read the article. It tells you that’s not the case.
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Here is Trannys Queen BICH GIVING AWAY $30 TRILLION......... No wonder we have a problem with IDIOTS like this in Govt..
 

"Medicare for All, as I put this together, covers everyone regardless of immigration status," Warren told a crowd of liberal activists on Friday. "And that’s it. We get Medicare for All, and you don’t need the subsidies because Medicare for All is fully paid for, and that’s the starting place."

The senator delivered the remarks at an event sponsored by Mijente, a "pro-Latinx" activist group. Warren said she believes health coverage is a basic human right. She added that granting access to illegal immigrants would help justify amnesty in the future



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The  only point made here, is the one on Tammy's head.   ..!.,
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I can't read it as the WSJ wants me to subscribe to their rag....
and tht ain't goin to happen...Canuck bucks don't go far south of the 49th.
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

“ obviously ALL, yes, ALL, the FREE CHEESE programs need to be axed totally, toss out the UN from NYC, build the wall, bring ALL troops home,'trim' guv departments, use 1 page tax form, stop all foreign help, stop all $$ going to states like CA, NY, etc., stop all 'pork' bills...and the biggy
... demand a BALANCED budget !”

California and New York pay more in taxes than they receive in Federal benefits. The wall? Supposed to have been paid for by Mexico.

“BTW the '11 months' is idiotic...everyone, except democraps KNOW a FISCAL is a year( 365 days though this year 366...).. I'm fairly sure you can get over 1T$ for any 11mths in the past 2 decades.”

Read the article. It tells you that’s not the case.


"The Wall"

I sure hope Mexico isn't paying for the wall that way for once in my life I can say my tax money went for something of value to America on the southern boarder.  Wink


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Budget deficit by year:
2019 - $1.1 trillion budget deficit
2018 - $779 billion budget deficit
2017 - $665 billion budget deficit
2016 - $585 billion budget deficit
2015 - $439 billion budget deficit
2014 - $514 billion budget deficit
2013 - $719 billion budget deficit
2012 - $1.1 trillion budget deficit
2011 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
2010 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
2009 - $1.4 trillion budget deficit
2008 - $455 billion budget deficit
2007 - $162 billion budget deficit
2006 - $248.2 billion budget deficit
2005 - $319 billion budget deficit
2004 - $412.7 billion budget deficit
2003 - $377.6 billion budget deficit
2002 - $157.8 billion budget deficit
2001 - $128.2 billion budget surplus
2000 - $236.2 billion budget surplus
1999 - $125.6 billion budget surplus
1998 - $69.3 billion budget surplus
1997 - $21.9 billion budget deficit
1996 - $107.4 billion budget deficit
1995 - $164 billion budget deficit
1994 - $203.2 billion budget deficit
1993 - $255.1 billion budget deficit
1992 - $290.3 billion budget deficit
1991 - $269.2 billion budget deficit
1990 - $221 billion budget deficit
1989 - $152.6 billion budget deficit
1988 - $155.2 billion budget deficit
1987 - $149.7 billion budget deficit
1986 - $221.2 billion budget deficit
1985 - $212.3 billion budget deficit
1984 - $185.4 billion budget deficit
1983 - $207.8 billion budget deficit
1982 - $128 billion budget deficit
1981 - $79 billion budget deficit
1980 - $73.8 billion budget deficit
1979 - $40.7 billion budget deficit
1978 - $59.2 billion budget deficit
1977 - $53.7 billion budget deficit
1976 - $73.7 billion budget deficit
1975 - $53.2 billion budget deficit
1974 - $6.1 billion budget deficit
1973 - $14.9 billion budget deficit
1972 - $23.4 billion budget deficit
1971 - $23 billion budget deficit
1970 - $2.8 billion budget deficit
1969 - $3.2 billion budget surplus
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2009-2012 sure look BAD...
2012 - $1.1 trillion budget deficit
2011 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
2010 - $1.3 trillion budget deficit
2009 - $1.4 trillion budget deficit

if broken down per month, I'll wager 11 mths of a fiscal were  over 1 trillion...

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we call that "bummer-nomics"...LOL
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Heck, TRUMP saved that by getting us OUT of the Paris Accord FIasco !!!
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A recent study by the Heritage Foundation projected that the Paris agreement and resulting policies would have increased electricity costs for a family of four between 13 and 20 percent annually. The study also projected American families would see over $20,000 of lost income by year 2035. Such regressive policy hits the nation’s most vulnerable hardest, who ironically are the same people Obama used to justify the deal. 

The Paris debacle was also slated to reduce U.S. GDP by over $2.5 trillion, and result in an average shortfall of nearly 400,000 jobs by 2035. Of the 400,000 jobs lost, an estimated 200,000 would have been in the manufacturing sector. Meaning Americans would also have seen the costs of consumer goods such as electronics, paper products, and apparel increase, inevitably taking more out of household income.

With such drastic costs to the U.S., American’s would expect an equally drastic benefit on the other end, yet that is simply not the case. Policies such as those resulting from climate deal would, even with a complete elimination of U.S. carbon emissions, result in less than two-tenths of a degree Celsius reduction in global temperatures. 

 
and THATS bummer-nomics !!


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good job trammy. trumps first 3 years are about 1/2 of your fearless spending leader Obama/biden.
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Takes money to rebuild the military... when dummer pulled out and left military equipment and weaponry back there in the middle east for  his favorite fighters, muzzie brotherhood ISEL (ISIS)... president #44 aiding the enemy = enemy of the States... but that is overlooked by all.
  Still want to know where the haities did the millionaire bummer get to be worth 70 million today on 400,000 a year salary???  Did he sign on to play some high paid sport ?
Or getting some kickback through some sideline deals ? 
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Trammy is right and I think it will crash eventually and I think Trump knows it and that's why he is doing his best to soften the fall by bringing as many jobs back to the US as fast as possible. But my question to Trammy is why does he/she/peanut butter care now vs when the Bum was president?
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Your right Lonn, that the market will fall, it is not 'IF', but 'WHEN'... Because it has for ever been a high/low - boom bust roller coaster affair up there... Always.   and yes, bummer could do no wrongin supporting him in the government motors fiaco, or the Solydra debacle or the lies of cheap insurance or fine the people if they did not have ins... and the cash for clunkers or the higher taxes on business's and manufacturers... or EPAing steel mills , coal fired electric plants and mining and drilling... Yea, death and distruction was happening to this country and the tards approved that with their luv for the I-ME, "I will fundamentally change this country", Ten TRILLION DOLLAR debt in 8 year president.
Spitt spitt spitt, what an offensive taste that was for that reign.
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Besides the JOBS comeing to the USA, we have a new TRADE agreement with CHINA that fixes 50% of the problems from the past, ( other 50% being worked on in phase 2),  AND will bring in $200 BILLION extra in the next couple years.... That and the new TRADE agreement with MEXICO should keep the economy on the UP and stock market rising for a couple years..
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So you guys aren't looking at 2013 thru 2016 the 4 years prior to the Dumpster??? Just the 4 years it took to clean up from Bush, Right?
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Originally posted by Steve Bright Steve Bright wrote:

So you guys aren't looking at 2013 thru 2016 the 4 years prior to the Dumpster??? Just the 4 years it took to clean up from Bush, Right?
You mean these 8, followed by 2009?
2009 - $1.4 trillion budget deficit
2008 - $455 billion budget deficit
2007 - $162 billion budget deficit
2006 - $248.2 billion budget deficit
2005 - $319 billion budget deficit
2004 - $412.7 billion budget deficit
2003 - $377.6 billion budget deficit
2002 - $157.8 billion budget deficit
2001 - $128.2 billion budget surplus
 
Yeah, ol' Bush really laid it on, eh?  And you remember, we were attacked on our home land, correct?  Before we hear some BS about unfunded wars, that is.  I had a job all of those years, built a house, saved money.  I don't recall it as all that bad quite honestly for what we went through. 
 
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“... some BS about unfunded wars, that is. ..”

Unfunded wars were not BS. The reason they were unfunded is because raising revenues to support them would have been politically unpopular. So the only people who had to sacrifice anything were the American Soldiers and their families. Now maybe you think that was a good thing, but a lot of people do not.
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

“... some BS about unfunded wars, that is. ..”

Unfunded wars were not BS. The reason they were unfunded is because raising revenues to support them would have been politically unpopular. So the only people who had to sacrifice anything were the American Soldiers and their families. Now maybe you think that was a good thing, but a lot of people do not.
Everyone who wants to blame escalating deficits on Bush want to point the finger to unfunded wars.  The point is: WE WERE ATTACKED ON OUR HOME SOIL.  And you defend your BS with more mumbo jumbo.
 
I listed his years, are his deficits like Obama's?  While paying for otherwise funded wars to boot?


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Originally posted by Steve Bright Steve Bright wrote:

So you guys aren't looking at 2013 thru 2016 the 4 years prior to the Dumpster??? Just the 4 years it took to clean up from Bush, Right?
Yes and with an inflationary Federal Reserve system, the economy went stagnant when spending dropped even a little. Unfortunately it needs to crash to end the system IMO and if it does when Trump is at the helm at least we have someone with some kind of knowledge to deal with it..... He's already dealing with it by bringing back our good production jobs so the fall doesn't hurt quite so bad, something dems have opposed, . There is no other way around it.... the tiniest cut leads to stagnation..... a big cut leads to crash..... further spending also leads to crash. It needs to end and the sooner the better. Under the Fed system savers are penalized and spenders are rewarded and that is a bassackwards system. Trump talked about this corrupt Fed system before he was elected.
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

“... some BS about unfunded wars, that is. ..”

Unfunded wars were not BS. The reason they were unfunded is because raising revenues to support them would have been politically unpopular. So the only people who had to sacrifice anything were the American Soldiers and their families. Now maybe you think that was a good thing, but a lot of people do not.
And the dems fell over themselves to vote for those wars.
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So you guys aren't looking at 2013 thru 2016 the 4 years prior to the Dumpster??? Just the 4 years it took to clean up from Bush, Right?
 
So are you saying the first 4 years of TRUMP should be BLAMED on the left over bummer crap?   TRUMP has been cleaning up the bummers mess in our country and overseas for 3 years.
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“ And the dems fell over themselves to vote for those wars.” That was certainly mostly true, although the war in Iraq was based on incorrect information.
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And the dems fell over themselves to vote for those wars.” That was certainly mostly true, although the war in Iraq was based on incorrect information.
 
So you want a DO OVER because you had bad info to make a decision ?   Your FULL of bad decisions due to flawed information.... Look at the Impeachement... Look at the Collusion... Look at the Barbecued Iran General !!!
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Want another barbecued General???
  Just keep that bull she~it up that the tards are blathering sending messages that say your tying the presidents hands so go ahead Iran and shoot your protesting citizens that want freedom from the tyrannical government over there.... The very ones that Trump tried to get you arses to help stand with the people... and save the country and maybe usher in peace over there finally in 50 years.
Dam dimwits. Instead the idiot dem loons stand with the warring faction... and Trump still has his power regardless what the House thinks. Nancy needs to choke on her dentures. That would do this world a world of good.
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Originally posted by TramwayGuy TramwayGuy wrote:

“ And the dems fell over themselves to vote for those wars.” That was certainly mostly true, although the war in Iraq was based on incorrect information.
I can agree with that.  However, here's the question to ponder: Did Colin Powell purposely lie to us with an agenda to wage war?  Or did he do his best based on what he believed to be true?
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