DeadBeats

I don't get even....I get ahead!

Until you have actually been sued, it is great fun to think about how easy the process is...

We have been in specialty poutlry equipment for more than 20 years, and in the end the only way that I could avoid the hassles of payment was to get the credit card machine, and ship on payment.  Most of the non payers have  a bit of a problem, as we are the only source for parts for our machinery, but even then, some just don't pay their bills.  The credit card system we got costs about 7 dollars a month,  and is resident on our computers, so not much overhead.  Works for us.

Good grief, I just went to look at our current arrangement, with Orbital.com, and although they have very little upfront costs, they are hitting us for about 11% on total sales, with a nasty list of fees.  Will be looking at options. 

Thanks for asking.....

JC(WI) wrote: OOPS... another can of worms just came to lite.

101 in quoting prices of a product/ parts is to include unforeseen costs.

I have been quoting piece prices for manufacturing plastic parts for over 40 years.

I know that when figuring the cost of raw material for a part that my employees will (possibly) loose 5% over the total run. Therefore I increase the amount of material to be used by the 5%.  I also know that the price of that material could very well go up before I can get a price increase thru to my customer. I add 3% to the price of material used in the quote to cover this to make sure I am not packing my money in the boxes. I also know that from time to time I will have to go to the bank for money to cover late payment of invoices and have to add 5% to the total cost of the product.  Then I spend a lot of time praying that those extra costs do not exceed my quote because some times they do.  Like I just had to pay for shipping back from California and then back to the customer because one of my employees forgot to install bearings in all the wheels.
I can not let these types of things upset me. In the real world this stuff happens and there is nothing that will ever change it.  All that can be done is to try to keep those types of problems as small as you can.  No employee got chewed out and when they had to correct it they were upset that it happened.

In my business the real bad people are few and far between but buyers are not cutting you any slack either.

Point is if you are going to be in business you need to price some of the losses that will happen whether it be with crooks or not.

I don't mean to say not to report crooks and scam artists to the proper people. If a person has (proof) that a person is a scam artists then a  public notice would not be out of line.

Example: I bought a tractor from a fellow in NY state. On one of the boards a Detective from that area posted that he wanted any one that had purchased tractor parts and had not received them please contact him. He had started to take the tractor apart and sell the parts from the tractor I had bought. The detective called me and we set a time I would come to pick up the tractor and he would help load the tractor and try to find all the parts that would make the tractor as I purchased it. Different tractor parts had been sold in many states and never shipped.  A lot of the parts had been sold multiple times. The detective told me that the man had been arrested but nothing would be gained keeping him in jail when he had kids and a wife that needed him. The detective was working with everyone that had been scammed to get the parts or money back. The detective was sure the fellow had not started selling parts with the intention of scamming but some how did what he thought was a way to get food on the table. They found the man a job and he was having to make things right with everyone to keep out of jail. I can not say it was all that bad of an experience. The detective even offered to put me up for the night and feed me at his house or just have supper with him and his family. I didn't take him up on it as I needed to get back to the plant.    I learned a lot about people thru the dealings with this person and the people that were helping him out of the hole.  Those that do not believe in cutting people any slack miss a lot of joy. I feel sorry for you for all you miss.  
 


Edited by Dick L - 16 Dec 2010 at 5:05pm

Dick L wrote: 101 in quoting prices of a product/ parts is to include unforeseen costs.

 

The legal system is a little bit screwed up in that if someone owes you something and doesn't want to pay, it costs you money to legaly get what you are owed. Personally, i prefer the advice my high school auto shop gave me, "just burn their house down". I still need to make a trip to rowlett texas one of these days come to think of it...

Well, Mr Johnypopper has some interesting company!  Child support dads and the model caught in a three some......LOL

I am with you Tom. I say letting the loosers off,and the honest people paying more for something is bullsh*t.   The pieces of crap that drive off is the reason I have to go in and pay for my gas before I pump.  What is right about punishing the honest???? I dont get some of you guys train of thought.  Adding to your price in the begining is as much stealing as the guy that wont pay his bills.

Frontloading the selling price for raw material shrink, price escalation, and the cost of money is good business. If the buyer doesn't like the selling price, he doesn't have to buy. 

Edited by GBACBFan - 16 Dec 2010 at 9:36pm

Did ya get my payment for them there bars???? LOL

 They sure do there just a bunch of Liberals,I havent seen to many smart liberals in my life,thanks for the vote of confidence!!!!

I do a little woodworking/sign making on the side. I made a nice wooden sign with routed lettering and frame for my wife's aunt. It was a Christmas present from her son (my wife's cousin.) I delivered it for free and even took a bag of quickcrete, post hole diggers, and installed it when I got there for free because it was family.

ILGLEANER wrote: No GBACB that is what is called punishing the honest for the crooks,I dont care what anyone says ,its wrong. I guess if you take pleasure in sticking it into honest people,you can call it what ever you want. And people wander whats wrong  with this country. He wants paid, and as far as I am concernd ,if there were more self policeing,and less lawyers this country would be way better off.    I know a man who runs a glass shop, he put a window in for some low life that wouldnt pay,and wouldnt pay.  He went over there and took it back out. They  came home to a big cold whole one day.  That might not have been legal,but its right. The guy not paying is wrong. Its real easy ,things are either right or wrong.  Alot of things  could be fixed real easy in this country.                                                       IG