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Wil M (NEIA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NEIA Points: 478 |
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What is the best method or solvent for de guming values, springs, etc. Tearing into a motor that is "stuck" but not with rust but an amber colored glue like substance. I have had the pistons soaking in the cylinder walls for 3 months now with first tranny fluid and then brake fluid and it won't even touch the glue holding the pistons in place on the cylinder walls. The valves, springs and head are just a gummy glued mess. I took one valve to the wire wheel on my bench grinder and managed to get most of the mess off but still not the best. ![]() ![]() Wil
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Brian Jasper co. Ia ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |
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Dip type carb cleaner. Gunk brand Hydro Seal is good. Comes in a 5 gal bucket.
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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You might try some oven cleaner. That's some nasty looking stuff there.
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Wil M (NEIA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NEIA Points: 478 |
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I never thought of oven cleaner. I think the JB 80 and Kroil I have been spraying on everything to just get stuff loose made the gummy ness even worse.
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LoggerLee ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Location: Lewiston ID Points: 118 |
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Cant hot tank it?
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Coke-in-MN ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41774 |
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A hot caustic soda based cleaner will cut that off any cast or metal parts . EXCEPT . DO NOT USE ON Aluminum or base Matal parts as it will disolve them.
Might be time to thake them to moror rebuilder or machine shop that has a hot tank and get them cleaned.
Aceatone or MEK might also cut it but fumes need to be protected against breathing .
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Dave H ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3541 |
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If you are an old pfart like me and time is not of the essence and you have an electrolysis tank sitting rond, I would give that a whirl. For that kind of mes Iwould try spiking the vat with a little lye also.
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22823 |
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If the pistons are cast, remove everything you can from the block and try electrolysis but I don't think it would do the pistons any good if they are aluminum.
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alan-nj ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: oxford, nj Points: 847 |
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my favorite cleaner is kerosene.
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GlenninPA ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ashley, PA Points: 5054 |
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Try turpentine. The real stuff, made from pine. Not fake, check the can to be sure.
It really worked for me in a similar situation.
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 83569 |
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the cheapest stuff is gasoline.. many will say "NO", but get 2 gallons in a bucket and soak the vavles and spring in that overnight. use a tooth brush the next day and then wipe off whats left.. I normally wire brush afterwards for a bright finish.. Been doing that for 40 years.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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BrianC,Ont ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Belleville Ont Points: 903 |
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I use the 5 gallon pail of carb cleaner, and oven cleaner. I would take the head to a machine shop and let them clean it. By the look of the valves and seats they will need to be cut anyways. The pail of carb cleaner is expensive if you are not going to use it very much. It will also eat thru the metal bucket after a while. I would try oven cleaner on the bores. Are you sure that it is the glue like substance that has it stuck.
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Wil M (NEIA) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NEIA Points: 478 |
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Thanks
Wil
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Reeseholler ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Location: Port Matilda PA Points: 294 |
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I know it's a little crude but I use dawn dish detergent. I found it works good for grease, gum, oil with dirt. Might work for the valves but wouldn't want to try it on the head
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