D17 power steering oil

The simple solution is to us Universal tractor FLuid.. UTF... Hydraulic/ transmission fluid...what every you use on the tractors you have.... You can also use Auto Transmission fluid of type A or F... I would not use the new LV or other synthetic high addative oils that might effect rubber parts.

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Edited by steve(ill) - 01 Oct 2023 at 2:52pm

Like them all, but love the "B"s.

I use SAE30 in my series 1. UTF works as well. Transmission fluid was used in the later models.

Edited by AC720Man - 01 Oct 2023 at 9:18pm

1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

Conventional oil is getting harder to come by all together. Stores are carrying either synthetic blend or full synthetic. Not sure how our old tractors are going to react with that stuff. I really have to shop around to find conventional oil. Another way to get rid of old stuff that needs zinc. Synthetic has its place and I am a fan of it in newer vehicles but not old farm tractors. I had 2 turbo 4 cylinder cars from the 90’s that came with Mobil 1 full synthetic in them from the factory. One had 300,000 miles on it and the other 230,000 when I sold them. They were such powerful cars and pretty trouble free. Never did any engine work to either one. Sorry about that, we are talking tractors not cars lol.
I tried ATF when I first purchased my D17 because the previous owner had it in it. I drained and put fresh ATF in it but quickly drained and changed it to SAE30. With the ATF in it, It was erratic and stiff to steer. I thought fresh ATF would help but it did not. I believe it was too thin for the series 1 system. Steered much better with the sae30 in it. Also started to leak more with the ATF in it. A year later I have rebuilt the pump, replaced all seals in the pump and front bolster. Steers better than ever now. I can turn the wheel with 1 finger.

Edited by AC720Man - 02 Oct 2023 at 9:53pm

1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

AC720Man: You are so correct. I had not purchased any conventional oil for about 4 years. I needed some this year. I couldn't believe how scarce conventional oil had become. Kind of shocking. So, I stocked up on a bunch this time before it really becomes rare...

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Driverdan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 21 Feb 2015 Location: Owego,NY Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote Driverdan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: D17 power steering oil Posted: 01 Oct 2023 at 2:42pm
	Hello friends!! I hate to ask a question that probably has been answered, but I tried to do a search and was told I didn't have authority to do a query... So here goes, what is used these days for power steering oil in a series I D17 ? Manual says 20W oil, which I can't find in this area (and my D17 us, in fact, in need of some oil in there!! Thanks in advance... Dan

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steve(ill) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 81098	Post Options Post Reply Quote steve(ill) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 2023 at 2:49pm
	The simple solution is to us Universal tractor FLuid.. UTF... Hydraulic/ transmission fluid...what every you use on the tractors you have.... You can also use Auto Transmission fluid of type A or F... I would not use the new LV or other synthetic high addative oils that might effect rubber parts. https://www.allischalmers.com/forum/d14-power-steer-fluid_topic197176.html Edited by steve(ill) - 01 Oct 2023 at 2:52pm
	Like them all, but love the "B"s.

Driverdan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 21 Feb 2015 Location: Owego,NY Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote Driverdan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 01 Oct 2023 at 3:34pm
	Steve, thank you for the response! Since I have 6 tractors, I have an abundance of hydraulic fluid on hand. I had considered that, but (in my mind) thought 20W was thicker than hydraulic fluid....so I talked myself out of it....Thank you again..Dan

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	I use SAE30 in my series 1. UTF works as well. Transmission fluid was used in the later models. Edited by AC720Man - 01 Oct 2023 at 9:18pm
	1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

Driverdan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 21 Feb 2015 Location: Owego,NY Points: 168	Post Options Post Reply Quote Driverdan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Oct 2023 at 9:50am
	Thank you 720....around here single viscosity oils are hard to come by.... Thanks ....Dan

AC720Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 10 Oct 2016 Location: Shenandoah, Va Points: 4910	Post Options Post Reply Quote AC720Man Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Oct 2023 at 9:41pm
	Conventional oil is getting harder to come by all together. Stores are carrying either synthetic blend or full synthetic. Not sure how our old tractors are going to react with that stuff. I really have to shop around to find conventional oil. Another way to get rid of old stuff that needs zinc. Synthetic has its place and I am a fan of it in newer vehicles but not old farm tractors. I had 2 turbo 4 cylinder cars from the 90’s that came with Mobil 1 full synthetic in them from the factory. One had 300,000 miles on it and the other 230,000 when I sold them. They were such powerful cars and pretty trouble free. Never did any engine work to either one. Sorry about that, we are talking tractors not cars lol. I tried ATF when I first purchased my D17 because the previous owner had it in it. I drained and put fresh ATF in it but quickly drained and changed it to SAE30. With the ATF in it, It was erratic and stiff to steer. I thought fresh ATF would help but it did not. I believe it was too thin for the series 1 system. Steered much better with the sae30 in it. Also started to leak more with the ATF in it. A year later I have rebuilt the pump, replaced all seals in the pump and front bolster. Steers better than ever now. I can turn the wheel with 1 finger. Edited by AC720Man - 02 Oct 2023 at 9:53pm
	1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD

Lars(wi) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Permian Basin Points: 7197	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lars(wi) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Oct 2023 at 10:00pm
	What not ‘power steering fluid’? Can found at any auto parts stores.
	I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.

EPALLIS Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Points: 1131	Post Options Post Reply Quote EPALLIS Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Oct 2023 at 10:00pm
	AC720Man: You are so correct. I had not purchased any conventional oil for about 4 years. I needed some this year. I couldn't believe how scarce conventional oil had become. Kind of shocking. So, I stocked up on a bunch this time before it really becomes rare...