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tractorboy 
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 Topic: d-17 cam bushings too tight???
Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 5:38pm |
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Borrowed a cam bushing install tool, put bushings in freezer overnight,just got thru putting them in. First time I used lucas for assembly lube, could barely turn the cam with both hands on the camshaft gear. Pulled cam out cleaned off lucas and put 10-30 thinking lucas was too thick in my cold basement. Same results can only turn cam with socket on cam gear. I'm thinking it should almost free-wheel since engine block is upside- down with nothing touching the cam except the bushings. So how easy is it to turn when it is right?? I put rod & mains in my B, but have not done cam bushings before. Any advice appreciated....... Keith so.va.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 7:21pm |
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Did'nt burr or swell edge installing? Should be nice fit and turn easy. Only did my 45 and that's how they were.
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Fred in Pa
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Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 8:00pm |
Been installing cam brearing for over 35 years ,why did you freeze them .
Give me a call 717-632-9022 this is my shop # up 6 pm eastern time .
Edited by Fred in Pa - 04 Feb 2019 at 8:02am
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Tracy Martin TN
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Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 9:07pm |
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Did you try the cam bearing on camshaft before installation? That is too tight, could end up spinning one. Does camshaft enter any bearing without resistance? Need to find the cause of problem first. Is bearing surface on cam round? Something sounds amiss. Tracy
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MACK
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Posted: 03 Feb 2019 at 9:52pm |
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I would guess bearings didn't start in straight causing one or all to be out of round.
Will it turn easer when all the way in? MACK
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tractorboy
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Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 6:36pm |
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Thanks for the help Fred ! After talking with you I understood what was going wrong. I did try them on the shaft, but guilty as charged [Steve], I messed up the edges by not going in straight [Mack]!! Lesson learned!! Thanks again Fred, I owe you one ! Keith
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Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 8:54pm |
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I use a driver with a shaft longer than block to keep it straight in block. MACK
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Fred in Pa
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Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 7:43am |
This is my set up I use for installing cam bushings . Having correct tools for the job and understanding how to use them is important.
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Don(MO)
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Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 8:27am |
Fred is showing the right tool for the job!!!! If you don't have one get one from someone or rent, but if you are going to be rebuilding more engines then I'd just buy a set. Fred your driver looks like you have used it before. lol I will just add some more shots of the same unit on a D17 gas engine.
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