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D-17 Block Heater "Gas"

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    Posted: 08 Dec 2009 at 9:01pm
Hi everyone. I was wondering what experience you have with block heaters in Gas powered D-17. I've got a Series IV and would like to put one in but dont know what my options might be. I know they usually go in a freeze plug hole. Any info would be great.
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I don't really see why you need one on a gas.  They do come in handy on a diesel, but on a gasser, just use the choke.  My D14 starts no problem in Canadian winter.  Just make sure your ignition system is up to snuff.
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I dont have to have one. But I figured it wouldnt hurt. Heck most of the gas cars and trucks here have them.
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I put a Zerostart hose heater on my series III a few years back. I'll have to look but I believe there is an outlet on the water pump for a standard sized automotive heater hose. I ran that to the hose heater & then back to the outlet on the LH side of the engine block. It works great, just be sure that the hose heater is mounted low enough so there is always coolant in it or it will fry.

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A steel frame trouble light, with a 100 watt bulb.  Hang it next to the block.  Cover the tractor with a wool blanket, or moving blanket.  Works great and it doesn't add any future maintenance troubles!
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They also make one that is held to the bottom of the oil pan by a magnet to warm the oil.  Just another option that requires no installation and can be moved from one to another.

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My Series I has a heater in the block, lower left side ahead of the carb.  Looks like it is installed in a former block drain as it's a pretty small hole.  Dunno if it works, the plug end is missing and I haven't gotten around to putting a new end on to try it.  It started last year even at -20F inside the shop so I didn't worry about it too much. 
I do think that heating up the engine before starting it in bitter cold is a good idea though - it has to be better for engine life and shortens the time to full warmup.  StanIL is right - the oil pan magnetic heater is probably the best way to go.  Engine turns over faster and you can move the heater.  They usta be easy to get - just watch the highway on the way into work, peeple would leave them on their car oil pan and a the right bump would knock them off.  Don't see them anymore - peeple got smarter or most car pans are aluminium now?
Anyway, they work great on a tractor!
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 Both my D17s and myWD45 have circulating heaters plumbed in to the system.Very easy to do.It was -30 here 2 days ago and I use one of those tractors to feed 500 sheep.Engine heaters are mandatory!
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I used to use my salamander heater to get an old Cub Cadet started in the cold. Could just point it at the block and warm things up that way.
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I know that they are handy on newer diesel tractors and diesel pickups.  I would think they would be great for a gas tractor especially if it is extremely cold out.  Valu-bilt tractor parts sells them you just need to know the size. Click the link then click freeze plug heater.  Hope this helps
 
 
 
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