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Charlie175 
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 9:12am |
On paper these tractors looked to perform pretty good, how come they never really caught on?
Would the motor fit into a D10/12?
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'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 10:16am |
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I would like to buy a D15D thats for sure
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
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Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start
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Hurst
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 10:52am |
Wasn't the diesel a fair bit less powerful than the gas version by the time the series II rolled out, so if it had any kind of premium in price, I would say it would not have appeared too attractive to many. I believe someone explained it along those lines a while back, but I could be wrong.
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Dennis(IA)
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 11:06am |
A local JD dealer had a D15 diesel in there used lot a couple/three years ago. Looked to be a nice tractor @ $5,500 (if I am remembering correctly). I was not interested at the time, might be today.
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firebrick43
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 11:25am |
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For a long time from post ww2 to maybe 1995ish time farmers have bought typically the second largest tractor in the lineup. For an established grain farmer, why buy a new tractor that cant do more than your old one? They have to have some new feature and for a long time it was more power, now it electronics and guidance.
Most of those years the D17 was the second in the line up and hence the largest seller. Go through the years and you will find similar results. If you were an established grain farmer you already had an older tractor that would be compareable in power to a D15 so why pay the money to get a newer smaller tractor, extra for diesel as well, when you can put that money into buying the biggest tractor you can afford.
You get into specialty crops and the D15 was to big. So it was really a bastard in size for the time, for what the time.
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Matt MN
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 12:09pm |
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wouldn't the D19 be the 2nd biggest?
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 12:13pm |
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I love my series 1 D15D. It's a great tractor. I wish they had of cought on that way used parts would be easier to get.
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firebrick43
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 12:32pm |
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From 57 to 63 it was the second. In 63 when the D21 came out then yes it was 3rd but at this time you saw the popularity of the D17 was waning. I would say by 65 or 66 probably the 190 was the most popular? The later D17s series iv were made in much fewer numbers. Allis didn't roll out whole series of tractors together but introduced them in increments.
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Charlie175
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 12:42pm |
Anyone have a price comparison for Gas vs Diesel?
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Charlie
'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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FredW
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 2:16pm |
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Diesel was a few less horses, maybe two or three, probably not a big deal for what they were going to be used for. Now they are just a sweet little show tractor. Fred
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BennyLumpkin
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 4:17pm |
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I want a D15D....we had one on the farm when I was growing up....thats what got me into AC's int he first place and I'd like to have one in my collection.
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 4:41pm |
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Still Looking for mine Benny
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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"
1968 D15D,1962 D19D
Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 5:01pm |
May 1968 Price book. D-15 II gas base price $4231.00 48.9 PTO HP.
D-15 II diesel base price $4834.00 38.4 PTo Hp.
No mystery why A-C didn't sell very many.
If the diesel had a little turbo and been 2/3 of a D-19 instead of 2/3 of a D-17, the diesel would have had 48 hp. Another project!!!
Edited by Calvin Schmidt - 09 Dec 2010 at 9:33pm
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BurtIA
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Posted: 09 Dec 2010 at 7:54pm |
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Seems to me more were sold in the southern states than the Midwest. Of the three I have the Series I came from GA, Series II from TN and the Series II HC from AL.
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FredW
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Posted: 10 Dec 2010 at 8:21am |
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Didnt realize there was that much difference HP wise, that much you could feel. Fred
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