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D-15 Belt Pull Hydraulic Pump

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    Posted: 23 Jun 2023 at 11:00am
My neighbor wants to add an optimal hydraulic pump for the belt pulley to his D-15 diesel. Are they available if so where at? And what needs to be done to do so?
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Pretty sure belt pulley will stop when clutch is pushed in....
If so,depending on application, this could be a bad thing ??
Only way I know to get a true 'live' hydraulic pump, would be off the front of the the crankshaft.
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"Optimal" hydraulic pump?? how about "auxiliary" hydraulic pump ??  I know they made one for the D-17 and could have for the D-15 as well. A poor set-up at best. Only worked when your foot was off the clutch pedal. No parts available any more unless by chance you found a salvaged tractor with the optional hydraulic system. The home-made "live" system is by far superior or a front pump from an all-hydraulic loader is too.
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Got a d15 d highcrop with side mounted pump. 402-469-1738

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So, it's more than just the pump, right ?? It has an oil tank on the right platform and some sort of a hydraulic valve stack ?? maybe on the left side beside the seat??
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Call for pictures 402-469-1738
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Originally posted by coggonobrien coggonobrien wrote:

Here's what I did






Kit? Parts list?

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This hydraulic system is a "one-of", utilizing a hydraulic pump from a Northern Hydraulics Catalog, making a pump mounting bracket that attaches to the thermostat housing, adding a second pulley to the crankshaft pulley and finally using a hydraulic console/valve stack from a D-17 IV or 170-175-180-185 tractor. All the hoses and connections were selected to get the installation completed on the D-15 II chassis in March of 2017. The original hydraulic sump is tapped into on the front left side corner for hydraulic oil supply and there is a return filter from a 180-190-200 under the left rear axle area to filter all return oil. The only time any hydraulic oil ever leaves the sump is when a one-way cylinder is extended, so a couple of quarts at the most. When using a 2-way cylinder extending, even less oil leaves the sump. It has performed flawlessly for 6+ years and is pretty neatly installed.

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We have a D14 industrial with a pippin loader on it. It had a side pump. I don’t remember being bothered by having to make sure foot clutch was out. The center plate cracked and couldn’t find replacement so we put front pump on it

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As far as I know, any D-14/D-15 side pump was dead when the foot clutch pedal was depressed. Only the D-17 IV and One-Seventy's were "live" at that drive location.
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Guess what I meant was don’t remember it being a nuisance. Having shuttle clutch helps though 
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Here is the build thread for the d15 live hydraulic conversion.  I did all the fab work, Dr did the engineering.  Still works beautifully

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