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D14 Dilemma

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 8:36am
This was the picture I ment to post last night. Better angle.

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AJ

See my 'just edited post' above.

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Hey Alan,,,Are you wantin to "restore correctly" or just repair to run this D14? I can see two options if your just lookin to repair.
What MAY be the problem is the "floor" (for lack of a better word) may have been installed too high causing the interference with the "tang" in question,,,,,?
When you get the floor/tang issue resolved, here's how I would tackle the other. If the clutch was operating properly, I would cut the rod and machine a "spacer" to extend the rod so the pedal sits up straighter. I had to extend mine by 2" so I made a spacer 4" long with an allen at each end,,,works like a charm,,,!!!
    Fact is,,,if you tell me how long you need to extend the rod,,I'll make you a spacer and send to you,,,
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 10:41am
Right now I'm just gonna use it and fix all the wrong and leaky things on it. Will likely paint it when all that is done. Found out last night it has wiring issue or I'm a dumb a$$ and did something wrong. Melted the positive battery cable off the solenoid.

Edited by AJ - 20 Jan 2016 at 10:42am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Steve in NJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 12:07pm
Is it possible that Tractor could have an incorrect clutch/pressure plate or incorrect throwout bearing in it and the rod needed to be threaded in farther to make it work? That would throw the pedal way off. Just thinkin' out loud here... I don't own a D series Tractor. (yet)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richardmo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 12:40pm
If you look at the picture you can see the back part is causing the clutch petal to stay down farther than it should.
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The problem is for sure the way that clutch pedal is cast. I've looked and it isn't from a D-10/D-12. The D-14/D-15 are supposed to be the same pedal, but that tab that contacts the platform simply needs to be ground off 1/2" or more and the problem is solved. The platform might be raised up too high as well, but by every picture posted, that tab should not be in a straight line with the pedal arm like it is. Linkage isn't the issue.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DougS Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 2:13pm
I'm wondering if that's the original platform. The foot rest seems to be in an awkward position, relative to the clutch pedal.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 3:42pm
Your right doug. The angle compared to the other pictures looks steeper than the others.
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Center of the pivot point off the foot rest should be about 1 3/8", this is same on both of my D 14.

Also will post a picture of my D 15 it is not the same clutch petal,
Angle is different.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2016 at 6:51pm
AGCO Parts gives a 70233271 as the p/n for the clutch pedal for both a D-14 and D-15. It does note however, early D-14's didn't have bronze bushings inside them and at s/n 21,677 and up they had 2- 70233270 bushings. It is possible at that s/n there was a change made to the casting, but you'd have to have an old D-14 without bushings to compare to.
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DR.

See my post above:

   Pedal, Rod, and Bushing revised at Ser. 21677

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