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HudCo 
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 Topic: d 17d series 1 vs. d17d series iv engines
Posted: 17 Mar 2023 at 9:55am |
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what are the differances in the diesel engines from the start of the d17 to the end if any
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Acdiesel
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Posted: 17 Mar 2023 at 10:50am |
~water pump on head/ later- moved to the block. ~oil bath air system/ later- dry element system. ~different style intake and exhaust Manifold: different intake heaters and flanged muffler v.s. threaded pipe. ~different length injectors ~heads were different: valve sizes, clearances,etc.
If i'm wrong or missed anything please step in.
Dan
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D19 Diesel,D17 Diesel SER.3
2-D14, 2-D15 SER.II WF/NF
D15 SER.2 DIESEL
D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II
2-720'S D21 Ser. II
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I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger)
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Posted: 18 Mar 2023 at 7:20am |
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Old D-262 had cartridge type oil filter and late models had spin-on type.
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HudCo
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Posted: 18 Mar 2023 at 7:41pm |
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will the head interchange ? are the pump and injectors the same ?
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Acdiesel
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Posted: 20 Mar 2023 at 10:56am |
you can inner change heads, you may need to make a plate to fit over the water pump mount on the head depending on which way you switching things around.
the injectors look the same, but they are different lengths. so the injector ports in the head may not be deep enough or check to make sure your injectors are not to short.
Right or wrong, I have drilled the head to fit the longer injectors, just want to check and measure the depth so everything seals.
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D19 Diesel,D17 Diesel SER.3
2-D14, 2-D15 SER.II WF/NF
D15 SER.2 DIESEL
D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II
2-720'S D21 Ser. II
Gmc,caterpillar
I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger)
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DrAllis
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Posted: 20 Mar 2023 at 11:42am |
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But, if you installed a newer generation head on an old block, there is no place to even mount the water pump now.
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HudCo
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Posted: 20 Mar 2023 at 11:06pm |
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dang it i thought i had a line on a newer head , i have been watching for parts to put my grandpa first year d17d back together, the haed got scraped at a machine that had it that went out of bissness. tractor has been sitting in a relations shed for some time all apart i have been working on getting it back in my stable scince i have the rest of the tractors
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Posted: 21 Mar 2023 at 10:54am |
Deutz made an air cooled engine.
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D19 Diesel,D17 Diesel SER.3
2-D14, 2-D15 SER.II WF/NF
D15 SER.2 DIESEL
D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II
2-720'S D21 Ser. II
Gmc,caterpillar
I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger)
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