Covid shots

This is not political.. Mom 98 years old had her first shot last week. Later that day She could not get out of bed by herself, this went on for 2 days. Older sister was staying with her. She had to get the wheel chair out to get her around the house. Mom is back walking but very very weak. Sister went back to Minneapolis. Neighbor comes over and checks on her every day. She's scheduled for a second shot in 3 weeks. I hope it isn't as bad as this one.

My wife got sick from both I didn’t get sick from either.
I did have serious pain about a month after my first shot right where they gave the shot in the shoulder. No problem with the other.

Tom... last week there were 400 people dieing EVERY DAY from the COVID... I read that 399 of them did NOT have the Vaccine... ONE had the vaccine  ( on average daily)... Like Shameless said, tell her the averages are on your side if you get the shot !..

My mother is 94 and has had both shoots, shes in a rest home and didn't have any trouble from either shot. My wife and I had the shots neither one of use had anything from the first shot my wife had a little drozzienes from the second shop I didn't have any side affects. I would rather take my chance around public with the shot than without.

tadams(OH) wrote:   I never got flu shots till I worked a Lowe's and they paid for the shot and you had to get it. I have gotten one every since and no problems and will continue getting Covid shot till I die for safety of the people that won't get the shot or wear a mask.

ac fleet wrote: odd man out here! LOL! I'll take my chances without shots---me and needles do not mix at all! --- had too many after effects from other shots to risk this.

 

My first Moderna shot left my "injected" arm pretty sore for 2 days, and pretty tired for that evening. My second Moderna had NO side-effects at all .

there is very very little evidence of people dieing after getting the shot... a hand full out of 100 MILLION people... More people die of the flu every day than from the covid shot.

Edited by steve(ill) - 02 Jul 2021 at 2:10pm

Nothing about this man made disaster is predictably safe. Use your brain think about all possibilities. Better than 99% of those that get it don't die.  But that is no comfort to those that lost a loved one. We have big business making big money from the SHOT, there friends in the media are not talking about cases like Steve NJ just reported.

Edited by Ray54 - 05 Jul 2021 at 11:52am

I had the Pfiser shots - a little fatigue after 2nd shot.

Wife has rheumatoid arthritis(RA), and autoimmune disease. She got the Moderna shots. Within a couple weeks, her RA became active (out of remission) and she experiences elevated pulse rate (tachycardia) when standing after sitting for long periods. Per her rheumatologist and cardiologist (reviewed heart monitor for incidents), both claim they are seeing this in patients who took Covid vaccine.

My wife's RA is now so suddenly bad we got a mobility scooter for her.

Her PCP advices against future booster shots for Delta variant, ect and the vaccines ramp up immunie responses to the detriment of autoimmune disease patients.

So, if you have an autoimmune disease or a young person (under 28), you need to seriously weight the pros and cons of the vaccine. A number of countries recommend against males under 28 taking the vaccines b/c cons more than benefits of it.

Edited by KMAG - 10 Jul 2021 at 7:59am

have seen reports that  2-300 people have died after the shot.. Not 100% sure it WAS due to the shot... For arguments sake, lets say 1000 died after the shot.. Thats out of 150,000,000 ........... thats 1 person in 150,000 ....... about 0%..

WF owner wrote: I just saw, on the CBS News, that 99.7% of new COVID cases are unvaccinated people. They also say that the Delta variant is 40 - 60% more transmissible than the original virus and has indications that it is more serious complications. My opinion is those that don't get vaccinated are going to keep us in this pandemic longer and with more serious consequences as this virus continues to mutate and more variants emerge.  WF, more variants may be emerging, but I believe the 'mutation' theory has been debunked...at least that is what I have read, FWIW. Delta variant 40-60% more transmittable....how do they know that? what does that even mean? I'm not picking on you, just using your post for my thoughts. I am not an antivaxxer, but at the same time we are in uncharted waters here, using untested vaccines, and making judgements basted on questionable info provided by a questionable government, and media. And, there is the big money angle, drug companies stand to make big money here, with little/no risk, which I am not opposed to, but it does mean we, the consumer must be far more wary because the government safeguards have been dropped, or relaxed. Because of no testing, we have no idea of the long term effects of the vaccine.....probably nothing, but we really don't know. SteveIll is correct concerning the odds, but the 'odds' may, or may not be based on good data. Every year for as long as I can remember, there was a certain no. of people that died from the flu, usually the chronically ill, and or elderly.....except for 2020. I have yet to see or hear of a common flu death, or statistics thereof. Why? I don't know, but my suspicion is they happened, but was  misdiagnosed, or deliberately counted as COVID deaths. Likewise many other COD reports. A while back, I studied CDC stats, noticed Cause of Death for many illnesses dropped dramatically for many categories, in 2020. Did we suddenly get healthier except for COVID? There may be some legitimate reason for some of drop in some categories, but, again my suspicion is  monkey business with the numbers. Then there is Fausi and his no mask/must mask/must double mask ignorance. and all the mandates to enforce mask use, w/o any advice, or criteria as to type/style/specs/use of said mask. I saw people with masks on their mouth, but not their nose, and all manor of styles and materials, from train robber bandana masks to cheap knockoff surgical masks! none of which was designed for the purpose of catching a virus 100's of times smaller than the matrix of the mask material! Lots of BS, lots of false information, lots of unknowns. My point is I am not sure if I will get the vaccine or not, I can understand both sides of the argument, and I will not judge anyone for getting, or not getting the vaccine. I had it once, was given a 50-50 chance of survival....after I was treated for a week (I was not informed of this at the time, they told my wife, they called her and asked if she wanted me home, or sent to a nursing home (to die))! It wasn't my time. and, you can point the finger at me for jeopardizing the public health if you wish, I am going to make my decision to vax or not based on what I can perceive to be my, and the publics best interest, right or wrong. BTW just as a footnote, the government CAN force us to get vaccinated! That was decided y SCOTUS a long time ago.

DMiller, don’t leave out the very last one that will be discovered in the future, The Omaga Varient.

Oh yeah = talk has started on the new fall pandemic predictions

3 weeks ago the US was down to 8,000 new cases a day.... Today we are up to 25,000 NEW cases per day.