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PDehring 
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Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 2:47pm |
I was looking to buy a compression test kit/tester but would like to have one that works well on the 301 & 426 engines. I know it needs to have a higher pressure rating (1000psi) for diesels but that's about it. I've never messed with one but I understand the concept of what is being done.
Anyone have a recommendation or a make/model that works well for these engines?
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DougG
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Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 3:31pm |
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Pretty sure - if on an Allis your good at 500 psi and less on a compression tester, seems I'm wrong- sorry!
Edited by DougG - 13 Jan 2020 at 5:48pm
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Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 3:43pm |
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A diesel compression tester needs to be 1000 psi. You will also need the adapter for the type of injectors you have.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 6:54pm |
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600 psi is enough on any A-C diesel engine. When you use the starter to check any 426, you'll be less than 400 psi. Your adapter thru the injector hole will be the same for 301 and 426 EXCEPT for those 301's and 4-cylinder turbo engines that have a copper injector sleeve in the cylinder head.
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PDehring
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Posted: 14 Jan 2020 at 7:13am |
Is the adapter for a 301 & 426 a 'standard adapter' that would come in a kit or is it something more exotic?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 14 Jan 2020 at 7:34am |
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I made my own, so I can't tell you on that. I would think it could be very similar to some IH or JD engines injectors, but like I say, I don't know for sure.
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Posted: 14 Jan 2020 at 8:57am |
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Just checked my 40 year old Penske comp gauge out of curiosity . It goes to 300 . Never checked a diesel . Interesting post . Thanks
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 14 Jan 2020 at 9:11pm |
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Book proceedure for DDA was install tester and run engine. Don't remember speed. was time consuming for all 8.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 7:07am |
If I remember right, you warm up the engine first then test at idle speed running while checking for each cylinder. Called a running compression check. I think we did this in school way back when. If so I know I never did it again but I'd think a running compression check would be more accurate than a cold cranking test (book would specify at what speed the engine had to be cranked at for that too IIRC) but maybe the repair manual would specify the correct pressure for one or the other...........................................Or I could be all wet and remembering things I never did at all. 
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DrAllis
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Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 7:39am |
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Running is how AC wanted it done too, but if you are diagnosing a hard starting engine, a cranking compression test is better. AC provided no specs for this, so I compiled my own data. You'll find 350 to 375 psi with the starter is pretty normal for a used engine.
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Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 7:37pm |
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LOL Lonn...I remember a lot of stuff that never happened
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