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Claus wrote: Lonn, I like Allis Chalmers but Agco is not nor ever has been Allis Chalmers no matter what color they are.  I have never had any feelings toward a Deutz-Allis or an Agco-Allis or an Agco.  I'm not a farmer, my Grandfather farmed with Allis Chalmers and hated John Deere with a passion.  In 2004 I wanted to buy a compact tractor, the only two I even considered was John Deere and kubota.  I did not even look at Agco because I knew then they would not have any resale and like I said before it's not an Allis Chalmers in anyway.  I spent over $20,000.00 that's alot of money to me even though it is not to a large corporation or may not be to today's farmers, so yes resale does matter to me.

Dave in il wrote: Am I the only one who has always thought the Challenger line was a stupid move?   I remember right after AGCO "purchased" the Challenger track tractor line from Cat they brought an orange one to a major farm show, the CAT people had an apaplexic fit and AGCO hid it behind the building for the rest of the show.   Instead of bolstering the company as a whole with the new technology it was wasted in a limited division. In North America AGCO should have a full line of high horsepower 4wd or tracked tractors to compete with Deere, CNH and Versitle but only Challenger does.   Since the current manglement seems to think they have too many brands possibly they should market Challenger tractors and a line of Massey lawn mowers, garden tractors and compact tractors. LOL

Tom, I may have been dreaming when I made the comment about the AGCO board asking questions.  The reason I made that statement was something the AGCO rep said when we talked at the Colorado Farm Show a couple weeks ago.  He had mentioned that they were going to start building tractors in the US again and then said something that I thought sounded like there was more oversight of the company.  I don't remember the exact words but it was something like, "They are looking at some of the decisions that were made and may be rethinking them".  I guess I took that to mean the Board, it could have meant management.  In any event, I do think it's going to hit the fan if the numbers drop (instead of stay flat), this year.  I quite honestly wonder why the stock price on AGCO keeps going up with relatively bad news.  Are any analysts pumping it?