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steve(ill) 
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 Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 5:58pm |
These are the results of the USA and Europe as of today.. Remember that the USA has 325 MILLION people... Each European country has 50- 80 MILLION EACH so you have to add 5-6 of them TOGETHER to get a comparison... Add up the DEATHS of Italy, France, Spain, Germany and England.......... compare that to the US.... like 26,000 deaths for US and 65,000 for Europe.
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World
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1,997,906
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126,600
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USA
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613,886
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26,047
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Spain
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174,060
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18,255
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Italy
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162,488
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21,067
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France
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143,303
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15,729
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Germany
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132,210
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3,495
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UK
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93,873
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12,107
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China
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82,295
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3,342
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FREEDGUY
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Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 6:13pm |
You sure have it in for China  . Don't they hold a lot of the "notes" that keeps our government printing money that won't get paid off until my great/great/ great granddaughter is eligible to pay taxes  ??
Before you fly off on a rant, I've been told it takes TWO to tango 
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 6:24pm |
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I dont have it in for China.. they are PROVEN LIARS... They LIED to the WHO ( world health org ) and made THEIR VIRUS 20x worse... They LIED about the extent of the virus, .. they LIED about the origin of the virus, .. they LIED about the spread of the virus.. and they continue to LIE today..... just the FACTS, thats all.. Nothing to tango about.
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Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 6:27pm |
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China needs the USA a LOT more than we need them...... THEIR VIRUS is doing Major Damage to their reputation due to the LIES...... They will NEVER live this down... Japan, England and others are also pushing to abandon China.
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Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 6:34pm |
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The US needs to abandon China as well. Bring that manufacturing home where it belongs.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 1:26pm |
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How cheap do you want corn and soybean prices to go?
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 3:34pm |
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we can sell them FOOD.. and we can buy kids toys and underwear from CHINA... Just STOP the medical supplies , computer components, high tech, military parts.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 5:13pm |
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China needs the USA a LOT more than we need them...... THEIR VIRUS is doing Major Damage to their reputation due to the LIES...... They will NEVER live this down... Japan, England and others are also pushing to abandon China. |
Are you 100% certain that the USA has NEVER "stretched" the truth to the rest of the WORLD? Perhaps even the citizens OF the USA ?? IMO, pretty laughable on your part . Who owns the notes on our current National Debt, BTW ??
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 5:26pm |
i really dont know where your trying to go with this... Who OWNS the US DEBT ? The majority of it is the US PEOPLE... It is not CHINA as you believe. ......... everyone stretches the truth to some extent... Pushing the story that CHINA owns the US DEBT is one stretch.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 5:40pm |
Several years ago there were MULTPLE TV ads about the Chinese "repo'ing" the USA after we defaulted on our(USA) loans. I just assumed this was "factual" as there's NO such thing as "false advertising" ?? Even my then 7 year old son asked if it could happen .
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 6:22pm |
Look at the number that died in Germany compared to all the other countries listed in Steve's post with the chart of numbers of cases and deaths.
If this information is close to right,Germany must have a better treatment for this virus. Much more important to find treatment than worry about blame.
FREEDGUY your sounding like your defending China to me..............is that your intent?
I believe there is more fake news than real news being broadcast by net works. But I have not come across anything indicating the Corina virus did not start in China. Many roomers about it being from China's lab in Wuhan,or from poor heath/food practices in the "wet market". Which are all just guesses. But Wuhan province is where doctors decided it was not the normal flu and a new strain. So what is the deal on saying bad things about China.
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 6:34pm |
Ray, im no expert, but i noticed Germany also a couple weeks ago.. I did some checking and it appears they saw what was comeing and LOCKED DOWN earlier.. The told ALL the old people to stay home. They did a lot of testing.. The AVERAGE age of their deaths was 48 years old last week.. Italy is 80 years old... The young tend to do better in combating the virus... If you can keep us "old people" home, it looks a lot better .. 
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 6:59pm |
Several years ago there were MULTPLE TV ads about the Chinese "repo'ing" the USA after we defaulted
Yea....... lots of people tell some whoppers.. But if you want to see real liars... look at the Main Stream Media !!
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 7:04pm |
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Easy way to fix the Debt issue, China will accept the Fault of this ENGINEERED Virus release and be Charged for that price tag against what they bought of our debt, should pay off in around a year and they will remain BROKE. As to the deaths, just at 34,000 if include all the speculative could have been aided by Covid 19 deaths that are being attributed without evidence. That is just under .1% of population, gets to 3,500,000 is a Full 1% , 35 mil and is 10%
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Posted: 16 Apr 2020 at 7:10pm |
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As far as NUMEROUS Counties in MO, a few with ONE, a few more with 2-5 cases, and a few with up to 100 cases. Big problem areas High Concentration bad health Ethnic, and aged in nursing homes worked by Bad Health and Health Habit ethnic, does that set any preconceptions as to HOW the virus is transiting? We have FEW ethnic minorities in our county, had TWO case one full recovery the other working on it and NEITHER ended up on a ventilator, county to our East 54 cases some 9 have died, several more in hospital dying and a few so far recovered the rest just ill. ALL Worked inside St Louis County at various companies. Is that a REAL Reason to shut down the entire working world around our cities?
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