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chickenmann
Silver Level Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Brooks, GA Points: 87 |
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Posted: 20 May 2014 at 7:21pm |
I am building a puller motor and need to know a few tips, first, will WD-45 deisel rods fit into a g226 motor and is it worth the trouble? If so, does anyone have a recommendation on which piston to pair with it? I am planning on putting 190 valves in it with the tall head, using a D17 intake that has been opened up, an EGleaner camshaft and a 170 carburetor. Will this setup do anything or am I way off base and need to go in a different direction? I am a true rookie at this and would love some input.
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DrAllis
Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 20548 |
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After finding someone to regrind/offset grind your crankshaft, you will have a 4 7/8" stroke instead of 4 1/2" stroke using the diesel rods. It does nothing for compression with a stock 4 inch bore piston, so you'll have to find a piston tall enough to make some compression. Also the diesel rods need a piston with wrist pin keepers or pin buttons to keep the piston pin where it belongs. Never used 190 valves and I doubt they would even be worth the trouble. "E" Gleaner camshaft is nothing different that a WC-WD-WD45-D17-170 for grind. Be careful installing different camshaft without knowing your oil pump drive teeth count. One-Seventy carb isn't anything special either.
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chickenmann
Silver Level Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Brooks, GA Points: 87 |
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Ok, that helps me out, I will stay away from the diesel rods and keep the stock rods and WD45 crank that I have now, what pistons would you recommend to get more compression? Are the distillate/over 8000 feet of altitude pistons a way to go? What carburetor do you recommend instead of the 170? Thanks in advance for the help!
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chickenmann
Silver Level Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Brooks, GA Points: 87 |
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Also, I haven't purchased an oil pump yet, will an EGleaner pump fit into the WD45 pan?
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patrickmull
Orange Level Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Location: Casey IL Points: 893 |
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go with m&w 4.125 pistons i would use stock oil pump have a cam ground and degree it in at 104 or 105 that should gain you some power oh get a MS 464 from a wd45
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DrAllis
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You said it was a G-226..........you have a WD-45 crank and block?? that's W-226. "E" Gleaner oil pump fits and use the E camshaft to drive it. Kinda late to be building an engine for a Puller.....especially if you need anything special for parts.
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WF owner
Orange Level Joined: 12 May 2013 Location: Bombay NY Points: 4669 |
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I have a set of 4 1/8" M&W pistons that I am using in my WF block. I also have a WD45 (4 1/2" stroke) crankshaft coming. Will I have any clearance problems on the head? I am having the head milled just enough to flatten it out. Any recommendation on who to get to regrind a cam? I was hoping to get it going for this season (which is still a month away up here), but it's looking more like 2015 for me. |
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DrAllis
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If they are truly M&W model SP-46 pistons with the heart-shaped bowl, you'll need to mill off .170" or so to keep from hitting the cylinder head.
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patrickmull
Orange Level Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Location: Casey IL Points: 893 |
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if they (pistons) are sp48 they will clear/ cam i would talk to wi50 on here he might have one or order one from bullet cams @ http://www.bulletcams.com/ tell them your application they will design one for you
Edited by patrickmull - 21 May 2014 at 5:44am |
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chickenmann
Silver Level Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Location: Brooks, GA Points: 87 |
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Dr Allis, trying to get a motor for 2015, just trying to give nyself plenty of time to get it right
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patrickmull
Orange Level Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Location: Casey IL Points: 893 |
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I am thinking on a new motor for next year now also for 2015
Edited by patrickmull - 21 May 2014 at 5:48am |
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Jasonillinois
Bronze Level Joined: 31 Mar 2013 Location: Leroy illinois Points: 41 |
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Unless you are dead set on building an engine, and can do a lot of it yourself, buying one already done is probably the cheapest route. Find someone who is getting out of pulling and buy the tractor.
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