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nella(Pa) 
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Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 7:58am |
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IBWD MIke
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Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 8:43am |
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Cool video, thanks for posting!
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Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 9:17am |
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Why are they disking before plowing? or is this just a demonstration ... We always plowed to get the stubble 'plowed in', then the disking to level and break up clods.
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Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 9:31am |
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Some of the old pulltype plows did not have a lot of clearance. If you lightly disk first it cuts up the corn stalks reducing the chanse of plugging the plow.
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Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 12:26pm |
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Very neat video to watch, would be awesome to see it live in person. Really makes you think, maybe back in the 50's and 60's when 100's of 1000's of acres were moldboard plowed and most of these big tractors started coming out in the late 60's into the 70's.
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Posted: 09 Dec 2020 at 7:43pm |
Good Lord those in-furrow plow wheels take a pounding !! Awesome video, thanks for the video !!
I didn't realize that JD had such God awful UGLY 4x4's back then. There was a JD model plow that did a definite lack of turning under the "disced" stalks also 
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 6:07pm |
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On a side note, did any of you guys pull your plows that fast ?? An old timer told me that speed kills wear parts on a moldboard plow ??
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 10:08am |
Wow, Very impressive! Thanks for posting! I think they should have thrown in a WD45 with a set of three bottom 14's too! Just sayin......  Regards,
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 10:39am |
 HD6GTOM wrote:
Some of the old pulltype plows did not have a lot of clearance. If you lightly disk first it cuts up the corn stalks reducing the chanse of plugging the plow. |
. Sorry, but "pulltype" makes me laugh a little!  Is there some other type of plow?
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 10:42am |
FREEDGUY wrote:
On a side note, did any of you guys pull your plows that fast ?? An old timer told me that speed kills wear parts on a moldboard plow ?? |
Every plow I've ever used....uh, let's see...5 of them intimately, has a sweet spot of speed (and depth, and pretty much everything). Plus, I usually need to cover the ground in good time. So, safe to say I pull it as fast as the tractor handles it well, doesn't beat the crap out of me or the tractor, and does a good job of plowing. Wear parts are cheap in the long run, that's what they're there for.
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 6:00pm |
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:21pm |
Sorry not in my book. I take it you’re alluding to a trailer plow. But that, integral, or semi mounted, you still PULL. Example, combines. Pull type or self propelled.
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:26pm |
Now you're splitting hairs, to me, pull type implements require a PIN into a single drawbar through a clevis type tongue on the "pulled implement, not attached to 3 point/snap coupler devices  !!
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:28pm |
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Yeah, I’ve only been farming for 45 years, why should I have an opinion like that.
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:30pm |
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So by your thinking, you don’t pull a two point hitch planter. Ok, what do you do with it?
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:35pm |
Hmmmm If you are pulling a plow behind you then is it not a trailing plow whether or not it was pinned to the drawbar or the 3-point hitch?
Around here a drawbar pulled plow is pull-type and then there is fully mounted and semi-mounted............... er and horse drawn. |
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:37pm |
Like I said, splitting hairs . Seems like our JD planter manual calls them "DRAWN" not pulled ?? JMO
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 7:44pm |
Whatever. Drawn, pulled, who is splitting hairs?  To ME, if you attach something behind you, and drive forward, you’re pulling it. Plain English. A horse drawn carriage is pulled by horses. Same difference. Just sounded funny to me at first. Now it makes me want to claw my eyes out with hot forks.
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 8:40pm |
Out here we refer to them as "Round and round plows" there are also "Spinner plows" that reverse and go back the just plowed furrow. I think one of the 8020's had one. On irrigated land, at least before irrigation pivot systems, guys used spinner plows so there wouldn't be a dead furrow to have to refill to keep the water flowing across the field. Just to muddy the water some more, there are "Switch plows" that also go back and forth by switching which side of the frame they are on. Never ran one of those, heard they work well on sandy ground, not so good on clay. What ever you want to call them, it was impressive watching them work!
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 10:52pm |
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Seams the big Deere had trouble pulling its plow until he raised it up to get started, only rear right wheels pulling. No locking diff in those?
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Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 11:12pm |
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Boy, oh boy, some of you guys get real particular about labels. Sure glad nobody mentioned on-land vs in-furrow hitches or worse yet, front 3ph mounted plows that you push. Whoops-my bad-LOL.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 5:57am |
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Hot forks......
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 7:10am |
yes, nice video !! kinda wonder... how many acres did they plow ? how many gallons of fuel used ? how COLD was it ? guys in the open tractors ,looked cold ! think they'd be able to afford a cab and some heat...
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 7:21am |
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8 bottom plow with 18 inch moldboards is almost 3/4 acre per 1/2 mile pass.
Gallons per hour per tractor can easily be looked up.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 9:41am |
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Moldboard plowing is time and fuel consuming but there's few things that are more satisfying when it come to working dirt. You had to be there.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 1:04pm |
I think if you look up Tom Renner and Renner stock farms and watch some other youtube videos, these guys can afford cabs if they want to. They were just out playing with their toys.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 3:56pm |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Moldboard plowing is time and fuel consuming but there's few things that are more satisfying when it come to working dirt. You had to be there. |
I’m with you there! Been plowing since I was about 12? Mostly small stuff. When I got my 7045 and finally got it and my 6 bottom set up correctly and working well, you couldn’t have wiped the smile from my face! Didn’t last too long on its own though as a chisel plow shank from the prior farmer found its way into the sidewall of my rear tire.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 4:18pm |
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Tom Renner is a great farmer in the Shiloh Valley community. A high percentage of that area is occupied by late1800s Bavarian immigrants, now residing on their ancestor’s Centennial farms. That area has a nice pocket of excellent Muscatine/Sable silt loam soils. Scott Air-Force Base paved over a big amount of it cause it’s flat & was easy to build runways WWII era.
Tom row crops a few 1000 acres, raises Draft horses, feeds out beef cattle, & owns Shiloh Valley JD dealership. His old iron used to be a hobby. Back in 1990s when I worked on his farm, he had the beginnings of an extensive JD tractor collection. So I’m guessing the JD8020 was his?
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Posted: 12 Dec 2020 at 11:18pm |
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dad had an old JD trailer type plow, 3-16's, pulled it with his "M" Farmall, if we didn't disk the field first, we'd spend alot of time unplugging it. oh...and you had to disk the same way as you were gonna pull the plow or it would plug up if not, what a POS that thing was!
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