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John (C-IL) 
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Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 8:25pm |
Well, son and daughter-in-law along with DW decided we needed a new garden spot closer to the house. Barb staked it out about 40 foot by 60 foot on sod that has been that way for at least 15 years. My first thought was to scrape the sod off and then work the remaining dirt. I had to remove three fruit trees that just never got going because the deer kept them pruned back. SO, what to do.
Started with the IH 1066 and a 9 shank chisel plow, 4 passes and I had it ripped up. Next, 7060 with a 20 foot disc to level it out and break up the chunks. Repeat chisel plow, repeat disc. Not bad but the edges were a little rough and one end where I couldn't get to it with the disc wasn't worked down real well. Finished everything off with the backhoe by makeing big sweeps with the hoe to break up the chunks of sod and level everything off.
Oh well, you make do with what you have. Trying to figure out if I can get my 24 foot AC field cultivator in that small space!
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Calvin Schmidt
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Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 8:28pm |
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No sense to send a boy to do a man's job !!
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WD45
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Posted: 25 Mar 2012 at 8:48pm |
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Always plowed dads garden with the Allis 7000 and the 2000 - 5x18 plow one pass and the garden was plowed. Then rototilled the garden with the 716H which is still in operation.
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cornbinder
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 6:35am |
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we i was a kid, my dad always put out a huge garden. plowed it it up and worked it just like any of the other fields we were working except ran the disk over it an extra time or 2. pete
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 6:40am |
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Barb asked if I had something smaller last night so I got out my 18 foot field cultivator folded up the wings to get it to 12 feet and hooked it behind the D17IV. It was still plenty big for the space, but no where near as bad as the 7060 and 20 foot disc.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 6:58am |
Sounds like the garden's too small ! The main garden here is 90 by 400 more or less with 'obsticles' on all sides making it 'fun' using the D-14 and tandem pull discs.It's actually not more work to maintain since the rows are 6' apart(well supposed to be..).
Nice neighbour has given me an 'open access' 1/2 acre to 'play with' this year. I may transplant the raspberries and big blackberry canes there on the west side,rest is up for grabs..
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Dave H
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 7:51am |
you can raise a lot of veggies on that plot. from the size of it I think a walk behind garden tiller is in order.
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wjohn
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 8:17am |
We have eight 50' x 100' plots for our produce business. Most of the work is done with a BCS walk behind tractor with some assistance from a Gravely. When we start growing more corn I think the B will become more practical for that larger plot, especially for cultivation.
Sounds like you have an excuse to get a B/C or maybe put your CA to work!
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 8:50am |
 Dave H wrote:
you can raise a lot of veggies on that plot. from the size of it I think a walk behind garden tiller is in order. |
Did that after the field cultivator last night. Troybilt.
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 8:59am |
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John - where ARE the PICTURES!!!!! Mike
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alan-nj
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 10:01am |
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and i thought using a ca in a 60 x 90 garden was bad.....
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Reindeer
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 11:06am |
We had a 2 bottom mounted plow on oue of our tractors, so we used it to plow the gardens, but also to seed potatoes. After the garden was worked up, we went back with the two bottom, very slow, not very deep, and we walked along and tossed seed potatoes in the back furrow. They came up great and were in nice straight rows. Only problem was stopping before the whole garden was into potatoes 
Edited by Reindeer - 28 Mar 2012 at 11:10am
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Bob-Maine
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 11:51am |
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John, Garden? Looking out my window, the snow is coming down. May have
6" by tomorrow. I used to plow our gardens ( each about 60 x 120)with my CA and 214 SC plow, then TroyBilt Horse to finish. Didn't have a real disc to use between them so the TroyBilt took a beating. I bit the bullet last year and bought a 5' 3 pt tiller for my Agco ST-32. The tractor doesn't know the tiller is there (at full depth) and the seed bed is beautiful. I can work close to our six raised beds. Does it make sense economically? No,but we don't raise vegetables to make a profit.
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 7:27pm |
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John I felt wierd the other night discing another wildflower plot with the 170. Went round and round hoping no one would see me, thank the Lord I live on a 1 mile long dead end road lol. Bob, I hope I don't get a trip to Presque Isle tonight! We've had enough Maine snow and ice this winter! Like Siberia up there!
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Mike56073
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 8:57pm |
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I tried something like that when I was younger too, Dad told me to "till the garden", so when they were gone one afternoon I "tilled" it with the chisel plow and a 5288 IH. It wasn't pretty, I ended up bringing up tree roots the size of my arm around the edges. I guess I should've added another spacer to the lift cylinder, lol.
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 9:23pm |
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Ahhh... no wonder we had such a mild winter down here. Bob got it all in Maine! Keep it up there buddy!! LOL!! We had a 45-47 degree Winter down here all through the Winter months. When we had that bad Winter storm in October, I thought we were really in for a nasty Winter. Faked us all out......! We only got one small storm in Dec. around 5" and that was it! I was lovin' life....
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tractorman
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 9:29pm |
Is there some reason you did't show pictures???? and i thought plowing a 10 by 20 with a d14 and 2 bottom was overkill !!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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D-17_Dave
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Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 9:36pm |
Maybe this would be more in line with what you need.
I'd argue this and gladly demonstraight it that these were the best tillers ever made. Easy to use, balanced well, and fluff the soil better than any other tiller I have ever used. This one has the obsolete 4HP engine with camshaft reverse.
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Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 1:25am |
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John...sounds like an excuse to buy some....uh...small AC equipment for your enhanced garden!! or i guess you could just buy an oversided 3=pt rotor tiller!
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Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 6:13am |
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10 years ago I plowed a new garden with the WD and 2 bottom mounted plow. Lots of lumps of sods to work in. The wife had a hard time of it. After the first year it worked up fine with that 2 bottom but then a couple years later and she wants to double the size of the garden so back to the WD and plow. Again lots of sod to deal with and the wife was really working to get it smoothed so I jumped on the 7050 and 2000 monoframe and plowed it all again as deep as it would go and buried all that sod. Worked up real nice then.
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John (C-IL)
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Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 7:37am |
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If I do this again I will remove the sod first. Last night I hooked the harrow from my disc behind the 1957 WD45 and harrowed until most of the sod had been removed, what a mess! But it turned out okay.
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Bob-Maine
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Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 8:45am |
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John, I know you have nice, deep soil at your place. If I removed the sod here, I'd have about 6" of shaley loam left above the shale
rock :>(
Captain Dana and Steve - this has been the warmest and most "open" winter ever in Maine. Aroostook County, which is northern Maine where Presque Isle is located, had more snow than central or southern Maine. It was 84 degrees here last week. We had about five consecutive days of new record high temps. Maple syrup season ended about three weeks early and I have a pear tree in "green tip" stage. But we are getting nights in the teens now. Go figure. We only got about 3-4" last night. :>) Bob@allisdowneast
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Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 9:46am |
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LOL! And i thought I was the only guy who had the chisel plow and disk in the garden!!!
Edited by Rawleigh - 30 Mar 2012 at 11:48am
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Posted: 29 Mar 2012 at 12:47pm |
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The farmer I worked for one spring told me a lady from church wanted me to hit her garden for her...Stieger ST270 though the yard twice (don't run over the doghouse please young man) and it was ready to till...lol
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