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Bead breaker by RyanTN

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    Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 6:47pm
Fought with this wheel/tire for several hours, truck/ramp, beat with sledge, etc w/o sucess

then saw Ryan's method, and this is the result after about 15 min's. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RyanTN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 7:04pm
Glad it worked out for you Lou!  I can't take credit for it though, I think I read about it on "the other site" a few years ago.
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Hope your chain isn't longer now. LOL
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Grew up with them but it still amazes me sometimes what you can do with one of those jacks.  We have several on the place and they get used/abused quite often.
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i have broken 3 of them jacks thru the years! haven't replaced them yet, but will buy another sometime! the new ones aren't as good as the older ones!
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I basically did the same thing, but I used the tractor frame and the draw bar.  I think the draw bar is the safest way.  Yep I agree, quite a handy tool.
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A picture really is worth 1,000 words !!!
 
I bet a 20ton bottle jack in the same setup would work Ok ??
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I do basically the same thing, but using an old car bumper jack (hard to find one of those any more) under the receiver hitch of my pickup truck instead of using a chain.
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Protrucker,
Broke many, many beads back in the 50s and 60s using a bumper jack under the car bumper.
Then, I found one of these little harbor freight bead breakers at a garage sale for $2.00.
Greatest thing since sliced bread but not quite big enuf for the larger tractor rear tires.
Tremendous leverage there!
Been thinking about building one a bit bigger for that job; not a complicated tool to make.
The last one I did, I used a heavy piece of channel iron across the top of a 20T bottle jack with chains around the tire and hooked to the ends of the channel. It was a little tricky to keep everything balanced.  LOL
Same idea as the jack shown in Lou's post..


Edited by Brian G. NY - 08 Jan 2012 at 10:17am
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Originally posted by jaybmiller jaybmiller wrote:

A picture really is worth 1,000 words !!!
 
I bet a 20ton bottle jack in the same setup would work Ok ??
Might be a little tougher to keep the chain on the jack without adding something to it.
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the tire maul, the truck and ramp,
and all the other trick were better
when i was younger but now i only
used them if the tire was loaded
now i used a vacuum pump i made
from a frig compressor and put enough 
vacuum to suck the side down a bit
and tap it down a bit on both side
because the pump  will only take
the easy-is (spelling ) side down
as we get older we have to work smarter
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Originally posted by Wendell(OK/TX) Wendell(OK/TX) wrote:

Grew up with them but it still amazes me sometimes what you can do with one of those jacks.  We have several on the place and they get used/abused quite often.
THERE IS A REASON THEY ARE CALLED HANDYMAN JACKS
i have even used them breaking beads with the wheel on the tractor, use the frame to anchor on the inside bead, and packing in a pickup close to use the rear bumper as a anchor on the outside bead

Edited by ky wonder - 08 Jan 2012 at 6:56pm
i like old tractors of all colors
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I'll haven't found an easier way than my skid steer and a set of forks...I used to do it the hard way....
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Good old handyman/farmjack. Can be used for anything.
I bought a guy one for a gift one time. He hadn't had one before. This guy was a real good mechanic. His son made fun of it when he opened it. Saw him using that jack all the time, I'd just say that jack ain't good for nothing is it.
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I bought my Handy Man at an auction about 12 year ago and paid $30 for it. It was an older one that looked like new. The guy next to me thought I was crazy "cause you can almost buy a new one for that". Well I have the notion that my time driving to the store is worth something along with gas used AND, the old stuff seems to be of better quality than what you get now days. Sure comes in Handy a lot!!
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Originally posted by Eldon (WA) Eldon (WA) wrote:

I'll haven't found an easier way than my skid steer and a set of forks...I used to do it the hard way....
That is the way I brake down tires.  You have to be carefull when working on a good tire, I have put a hole in one.  Do you take the tire off the rim with the skidloader?
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Any front end loader with down pressure should do the trick; trouble is, not everybody has one! 
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Originally posted by Eldon (WA) Eldon (WA) wrote:

I'll haven't found an easier way than my skid steer and a set of forks...I used to do it the hard way....
Skidsteer.....Eldon I think thats cheatin.....
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Originally posted by DonDittmar DonDittmar wrote:

Originally posted by Eldon (WA) Eldon (WA) wrote:

I'll haven't found an easier way than my skid steer and a set of forks...I used to do it the hard way....
Skidsteer.....Eldon I think thats cheatin.....
Don that reminds me of what a chiropracter told me about 30 years ago.....some people are built to work with their head instead of their body....I try to use that advice whenever possible!
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Good point Eldon good point

Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"

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Originally posted by ky wonder ky wonder wrote:

Originally posted by Wendell(OK/TX) Wendell(OK/TX) wrote:

THERE IS A REASON THEY ARE CALLED HANDYMAN JACKS


Around here we call them DeadMan Jacks. Never know when they are going to stick on you and drop whatever you have lifted up to the ground. Every one I have seen hangs sometimes even when lubed good.

I had a old 7.5' Lilliston mower jacked up one day....did realize it didn't fully click the last time.....handle flew up and hit me right in the jaw and knocked me to the ground....I have a scar from it. I don't know how it didn't break my jaw...I was in the back by myself so I'm glad it ended up not  being real bad....had to eat soft food a couple days.

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Kid down the road has a neat bead breaker.. dont know what its called but it clamps to rim and expands as you tighten a bolt on it with a socket wrench. works quite well but when I went to buy one for myself it was very expensive.
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Originally posted by Brian S(NY) Brian S(NY) wrote:



Kid down the road has a neat bead breaker.. dont know what its called but it clamps to rim and expands as you tighten a bolt on it with a socket wrench. works quite well but when I went to buy one for myself it was very expensive.
Does it look like this?
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I broke 2 grader tires down today with a handyman jack and chain. They have been on the wc for at least 40 years and probably more. They were quite stiff and didn't come off the rim easy either. I feel like I got second place in a 2 man ass kickin contest.
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Thad, maybe you were the one that had one leg tied up?  I know how you feel, BTDT.
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