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dt1050 
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Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 4:54am |
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the d17 has a Henry loader on the front and a backhoe mounted on the back (mounted not 3 pt hitch), I have no plans on removing the backhoe, it also came with a set of wheel weights. do I really need to add the wheel weights with the backhoe on the back of it? tires are not loaded, but do have chains on them.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 5:57am |
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I see NO need for the wheel weights.
Not needed when using the backhoe,rears off the ground
Not needed when using the loader as backhoe offsets full bucket
Not needed when driving either
ANyone ever see a 'real' bacjhoe WITH weights ?
Just my thoughts...
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dt1050
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Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 6:36am |
thanks Jay, I thought the hoe should have enough weight, but thought I'd check with the experts. when I got it one tire was loaded with a weight on it, the other tire wasn't loaded and didn't have a weight  . that'd be a tricky ride on a hill side..lol
guess I never thought of it, I havn't seen a hoe with weights... guess I missed out on some common sense..
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 7:30am |
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we have a 530 CASE... when I rebuilt and ran without the hoe, it was VERY front end heavy.. With the hoe on it, no problem.. NO WEIGHTS.
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 7:34am |
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Definitely no need for wheel weights with a backhoe. And by your post, I am not sure if you have, or have not addressed the issue of one tire being loaded, and the other not. If you haven't balanced them out, I'd do it ASAP. A neighbor had a loader tractor, with one tire loaded with chloride, and the other not. He was out in the hay field with it handling big round bales, was on a bit of a side hill, with the loaded tire down, and that tractor flipped right over on him. He lived to tell about it, but did some serious time in the hospital and re-hab. Darrel
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DaveKamp
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Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 10:55am |
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There is ONE reason to have weighted rears on a backhoe. Mine aren't currently, but I WISH they were. My prior tires/wheels were filled with calcium, and I can't bring myself to fill these new ones.
When I have the outriggers down, and reach out with the bucket, and do a push and curl, to pierc, it will lift and pull the tractor like it's not even there. Now... my backhoe is a rather small attachment... only digs down 5', but it'll drag the tractor around like a Tonka-Toy. With the prior tires, it moved, but not nearly as much, and it dug better. Having a couple hundred more pounds would greatly reduce the drag and bounce.
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dt1050
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Posted: 24 Mar 2018 at 4:01pm |
 darrel in ND wrote:
Definitely no need for wheel weights with a backhoe. And by your post, I am not sure if you have, or have not addressed the issue of one tire being loaded, and the other not. If you haven't balanced them out, I'd do it ASAP. A neighbor had a loader tractor, with one tire loaded with chloride, and the other not. He was out in the hay field with it handling big round bales, was on a bit of a side hill, with the loaded tire down, and that tractor flipped right over on him. He lived to tell about it, but did some serious time in the hospital and re-hab. Darrel |
yep already fixed that problem, it had calcuim in it and the rim was rusted out at the valve stem. drained the fluid, cleaned rim ( a bunch of times), cut out the rust and welded a plate in from another rim. new tube and put the old tire back on. (cleaned the inside the tire very well). I also had a ford with only one tire loaded, it almost rolled over on me, but the bucket hit the garage opening and kept it from tipping.
the backhoe on the d17 is rather large and heavy. photo is before I took the tire off and fixed the rim.
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