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    Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 7:26pm
Anybody in this area to check it out, looks interesting.
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This is not an IB, its just a look a-like.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MNLonnie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 7:57pm
I guess my question is that since the first 260 IB's had no specific serial #'s, who's to say it's a look-a-like or an original?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wjohn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 8:01pm
Sure looks homemade, but it would be neat to see how it was done.

Guess I don't feel like driving 4 hours south to look at it, so I'm not curious enough haha.
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Originally posted by wjohn wjohn wrote:

Sure looks homemade, but it would be neat to see how it was done.

Guess I don't feel like driving 4 hours south to look at it, so I'm not curious enough haha.

Heck you're only 2+  hours away. I'd have to drive 5.5 one way.
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:

Originally posted by wjohn wjohn wrote:

Sure looks homemade, but it would be neat to see how it was done.

Guess I don't feel like driving 4 hours south to look at it, so I'm not curious enough haha.

Heck you're only 2+  hours away. I'd have to drive 5.5 one way.

I'm actually at Urbana for school right now. Actually putting it into to Google Maps tells me it's a little over 3 hours. There has to be someone that's closer; I know we have members down that way.
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It is my opinion that there were several "batches" of early IB's. Based on serial numbers I have seen, the first "batch" was numbered 31101 - 31200. The next "batch" started with 40xxx, I think.
I have #31197.


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It says right in the top corner of the ad that it is NOT an IB, just a look-alike.
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If the seller has dated the tractor correctly as a 1938 model, then that year falls outside the early 260 IB's range of 1939 to 1941.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wjohn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2012 at 3:21pm
Originally posted by GlenninPA GlenninPA wrote:

It is my opinion that there were several "batches" of early IB's. Based on serial numbers I have seen, the first "batch" was numbered 31101 - 31200. The next "batch" started with 40xxx, I think.
I have #31197.

I like the "batch" logic. That would make sense at the factory.
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Glenn, I have B40254, one of those IB's from 1940.

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Bob,
I think that batch started at 40201......
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MNLonnie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Feb 2012 at 6:21pm
Glenn, could you post your batch # info? It would be a good thing to have on hand for future searching.
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It is only opinion at this point, deduced from known tractors serial#'s, and some other tidbits. I would hesitate to publish it at this point, as the data I have is incomplete. Bob's post does tie into the theory I currently embrace though.
 
It would be nice to scare up as many B Serial# IBs as possible, to see where the ranges fall.
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im 2hrs and 40 min but dont feel like spending the gas to go down there plus i have no money to buy it. wish it was closer.
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The front axle looks to be set back 6"-8", and the wishbone appears to be square rather than round. Interesting.
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Originally posted by GlenninPA GlenninPA wrote:

It would be nice to scare up as many B Serial# IBs as possible, to see where the ranges fall.

I'll help you out by one Glenn. I've got B50472 1941.
I've downloaded these IB numbers from somewhere ? It may have been here ?
IB numbers by year

1939        113
1940          70
1941          75

This may help but I see it doesn't add up to 260. I don't know how accurate they are ?

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