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anyone here been diagnosed with PMR

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    Posted: 05 Nov 2024 at 7:00pm
Polymyalgia Rheumatica? According to statistics 59 out of 100,000 Americans get it. Thats .059%! Better chance of winning the lottery, and yet.....here I am with it.
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Yes, I have been dealing with it for several years. I have been dealing with it with pills called prednisone(sp) which has some nasty side effects. I am now in an acceptable range with 3/1mg pills a day vs 25 mg at the start. At this pill level the side effects are minimal. Good luck.
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Not been diagnosed but warned my own potential for this is pretty well set in stone.  Rheumatoid Arthritis is my challenge with this as a side result.   Keep to the prescribed controls for this and also, Good Luck.

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Yes; Age 73-Doc says that it attacks more women than men; that a Northern European ancestry doesn't help.  Have had it about 1 year, drugs (Prednisone) has helped but has killed my ambition and not helped my food appetite.  At the beginning, joint pain was terrible, couldn't sleep or hardly move.  Physical Therapy really helped, but at the time, I didn't think it was doing much.  After 1 year of this, I am much better.  R. Musgrave
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The toughest strongest man I've ever met, my dad, was diagnosed with this back in 2017.  The prednisone has been rough on him, he has lost ambition more and more as its gone on, moreso the last year or two than prior.  His strength has wained, he used to have one of the strongest hand grips that I've known and he has alot more trouble wrenching on things now.  He used to throw up a shotgun and be able to hit anything on the move, now he's good throw up the shotgun.  Also what hasn't helped is the agent orange issues from Vietnam.  Maybe that brought the PMR on, maybe it didn't.  He's 77 now so it is expected he isn't as strong or as nimble as he once was but I sure would like to see how he would have aged and him not have dealt with this the last 7 years.... 

What has gone well more recently.  Last year the guy who had rented our farm scaled back and we started our own hay operation from what had been row crop.  Doing the tillage work and seedbed prep gave him a job.  He may not run 7-8 hours on the job but he'd run a few hours, take a break, run a few hours later.  He's retired and enjoyed it.  Running his D 15 II with that AC square blaer behind it gave him alot of extra pep in his step.  He was eager (often times too eager) to start baling, he would have the tractor and baler in the shade greasing it and checking over everything, he woudl wipe to dust off of the tractor so the pictures looked better.  He had something to do, he had alot of pride that it was something he could do that was meaningful, helpful and productive.  He watched me and my son work our butts off in the sun and heat and he was apart of it as well, it was a mental and emotional pick me up for dad.... he watched his son, grandson, grandaughter and even his daughter work the crop like he did on the same farm he worked as a kid.  He sits at his kitchen table where he can see my house and has a pride that its all here and his family is doing well, he gets on his side by side and checks the hay growth daily.  Often gives me a report when I get home from work.  When baling this summer, well somebody has to run the tractor and surpervise.  If he got too hot he got on his side by side and I ran the tractor.  My oldest uncle that 84 said the hay operation probably added 5 years to him just in what it gave him a purpose.  For a few days after running a baler he may be sore and hurting, but next cut he'd be ready to do it again.  The D 15 rides rather smooth, my Mahindra tractor does not.  He won't run mine anymore unless he has to use the loader, he won't climb in and out of a bobcat anymore, (heck there are days I don't want to), he'll ride his side by side but not a 4 wheeler (too hard to climb over the seat and off of).  He doesn't do ladders anymore, heavier recoil shotguns or fifles he won't shoot, he has always shot a 20 gauge and he can still shoot a 30-30.  The hand strength to work the charge handle on an AR-15 is too cumbersome, he doesn't like his 9mm semi-auto and carries a Kel Tec PMR 30 22mag (30 round mag or 22 magnum, and he is GOOD with it).  He picked up one 50 lbs bale of hay off the ground this summer and placed it on the wagon just to say he did.  He rode on the front of a well stacked loaded hay wagon while my daughter drove the tractor in from the field just to say he did.  

Recently he was doing light yard work and somehow ended up with an L1 compression fracture.  Likely weakened bones by age, the years of prednisone, agent orange and the desire to work.  He's not getting around well at all, but I still don't want to throw down with him, and he has a fighting spirit still at least.  I will ask  "how you doin today dad" and he might respond 'wanna fight and find out, you'll probably win but you'll be working for it' (probably the hydrocodone speaking).

My opinion (and strictly opinion not based on advice from your doctor) as the 44 year old son of a 77 year old father that has watched this the last 7-8 years. 

STAY ACTIVE!!!!!!!  The activity will probably make you hurt, but the physical decline will be more linear and less plunging downward.  I want to say my dad could have been more active, but again I don't want to throw down with him so that says something.  Stretch.  In my dad it attacked his shoulders and hips the worst.  Dad doesn't do cold or heat as well, but I worked dang hard to build a deer blind he can heat and be comfortable in.  He has still trout fished many times, a hog hunt trip 5 years ago, even an antelope hunt to Wyoming 4 years ago.  Helping me on the farm years ago turned into 'all you have to do is run a tractor, place a pin, hold a wrench, etc etc etc.'  Nowadays it is often I'll ask him to advise, supervise or whatever light work I may need, often he is the best at keeping fresh coffee and good grub at deer camp.

STAY MENTALLY ENGAGED.... don't mope and nap, keep the mind sharp.  Don't sit around and develop brain rot.  KEEP that sucker engaged, when your body fails at least you got your wits.  My dad has as sharp a mind as any 77 year old.. though his stories might be more embelished these days.  Often I will find parts or equipment 70-100 miles away and I will get him to go with a truck, trailer and payment and he'll run the task for me.  Since my son got his learners permit he has been driving my dad alot and on these trips learned how to drive with a trailer.  My dad can navigate a map with his phone like a champ and can tell you everything ahead to stop or watch out for.  

MINDSET..... my son has Hemophilia A severe factor VIII defieincy.  Learning about that from the day he was born and treating it the last 15 years I have come to the conclusion (and have often told my son)  'You have Hemophilia but it doesn't have you' and he is kicking ass at life beyond his peers that do not have that bleeding disorder.  With PMR it will have you, and if you let it have you it will have more of you.  Somedays your body will say it can't and your mind will agree, but do something don't give up.

If you think your doctor is half worthless or is feeding you a line, seek a different specialist.  I haven't been impressed with dads doctor but he has stuck with him.  I can't stand the arrogant prick. 

As it is I feel for ya.  Typing this out maybe I should have pressed dad differently to be more active, again that is strictly my thought and I haven't suffered it.  As it is I saw the man who is my hero hurting too much to move, couldn't disagree too hard with him.  

I seriously don't wish it on anyone.
 


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I am 85 now and done to 3 mg prednsone  daily so it has very little affect to my life style.
PMR is nasty but it can be managed.
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There is no cure for polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR), but there are treatments that can help manage symptoms: 
  • Steroids
    The most common treatment for PMR is a steroid medication, such as prednisone, which reduces inflammation. Symptoms typically improve within two weeks of starting treatment, and most people find that the condition goes away completely within one to three years. However, treatment usually needs to continue for up to two years, or occasionally longer, to stop the symptoms returning. 
  • Calcium and vitamin D
    Your doctor may prescribe daily doses of calcium and vitamin D supplements to help prevent bone loss from corticosteroid treatment. 
  • Methotrexate
    This immune-suppressing medication might be useful early in treatment or later, if you relapse or don't respond to corticosteroids. 
  • Diet
    It's important to avoid foods that could worsen inflammation, such as fried foods, refined carbohydrates, processed meat, and alcohol. 
  • Stress management
    Meditation, relaxation techniques, reading, listening to music, crafting, or watching a movie can help improve concentration, release endorphins, and decrease anxiety and stress. 
  • Physical activity
    A good physical activity routine can include 10 minutes of daily exercise, gradually adding 5 minutes every other week. 
  • Living with polymyalgia rheumatica: Steph's story - Versus Arthritis
    Jun 1, 2023 — Once diagnosed, PMR can be treated with steroids. Symptoms generally improve within a week or two of treatment, with mo...
    Versus Arthritis
  • Polymyalgia rheumatica (PMR) | Causes, symptoms, treatments
    Steroid treatment is usually very effective to treat polymyalgia rheumatica. Steroids work by reducing inflammation. They can't cu...
    Versus Arthritis
  • Polymyalgia rheumatica - Diagnosis & treatment - Mayo Clinic
    Treatment * Corticosteroids. Polymyalgia rheumatica is usually treated with a low dose of an oral corticosteroid, such as prednis...
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Thanks for all the input. I waited two plus weeks before seeking medical advice, and then was diagnosed with bursitis, and sent to PT, which did seem to be helping. But, eventually the pain in the wrists became so bad I couldn't continue. In discussing with Doc, he thought maybe Lyme disease. Tests proved neg. So, some more tests and he decided PMR.  I am well acquainted with prednisone, had bad experience with it the past for asthma. But, it does seem to be helping with PMR, and so far no issues. Pain not completely gone, but at least I am able to function, although at a much lower level, no strength, no energy. Took me almost two hours to put a carb on the '28 Chevy truck today....seems my manual dexterity is suffering too. Going to be a fun ride. 
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I had PMR for 2 years, 2 months and 2 days. I'd recommend reading everything you can and join some support groups. Anti-inflammatory diet, Anti-inflammatory supplements helped a lot. I also tried the long covid type treatments such as the nicoderm patch. Good luck
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