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Anybody used a "ball" turning attachmnet,,,, |
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13693 |
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Well,I had been havin my eye out on the Marketplace for bout a 2-3 ton come-a-long,,,and I come up on a really nice aluminum unit that can be either a 2000# unit or doublin the cable with a snatch block for 4000# capability. Don't think I'll ever have a need for the 4000# set up so I went to doin my usual "modifying" to the unit to suit ME,,,, ![]() Took the unit apart to remove the extra dead man attachment off and wound up having to remove the cable completely out of the drum in order to re-route the cable for a straight pull and then being able to re-spool the cable on the drum. In doing so,,I had to cut the small piece that was on the end of the cable and dead manning inside the drum,,,,clear as mud so far,,,,?? The small SS piece has a ball on end of bout 1/2" round and then is cylindrical bout 1" long. It is bored in the center for OD of cable and I think it was prolly compressed at factory to hold the cable inside it. I was gonna re-use this piece but there was NO WAY I could drill out the cable that was inside it ,,So,,I figured I would machine a new piece,,slip the cable inside it that secure the cable in it with some melted lead,,,?? I have the piece made except for making the one end round,,,,, I can machine a rough circle with the cutters but,,,,, Anybody got any ideas,,??
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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pitch that one, go buy another and DON'T take the new one apart! WTF?
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13693 |
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Well,,Shameless,,,where is your sense of adventure,,,,??? ![]() You know,,,them engineers don't know EVERYTHING,,Ya see,,the way they made this thing is when you use it for 4000# service,,by doubling the cable and then dead maning at the come-a-long,,,the cable hook "IS" centered with the centerline of the come-a-long. BUT,,if you use it as a single line 2000# unit,,THEN,,, the cable comes out of the come-a-long at a very odd angle to the centerline of the tool,,,in fact the single line cable is actually pulling "away" from the center of the cable drum,,,kinda a dumb idea they come up with but,,,,but,,,I'ma gonna fix it just for you,,,,, ![]() Other than that,,it is a hell for stout come=a=long,,,,,,
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13693 |
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CHit,,,plumb forgot,,,still lookin for some ideas for a ball maker tool for a lathe,,,,??
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Dnoym N. S. Can. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Points: 544 |
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24657 |
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Ok.. from what I understand the 'ball' is used to locate and lightly hold the cableinto the drum. It is NOT designed to be 'tugged' on. All winches need at least 1 full layer on the drum at ALL times !! Tow truck winches do NOT have 'balls' on the ends. The cable is pushed through the hole, then the drum is turned to 'respool' the cable back on. If a driver 'freespools' and drives too far, yup, the cable come OFF the drum.....'as seen on TV (kinda funny..) So....just get a 'crushable' ball (not a ball bearing) and swage onto the cable. |
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13693 |
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Hey dnyom,,thanks for that link,,, Yeah,,Jay,,that's kinda what I thought and I was trying to make the finished product look and perform as good or better than the original. I ain't a good enough machinist yet to make one of those attachments for my lathe,,,besides,,I prolly wouldn't use it again,,,,, ![]() ![]() ![]() SO,,,I'm thinkin I'll just use the tool bits to do a halfway circular piece and melt some lead fishing weights into the cavity,,,That ought to hold the cable in place,
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JoeO(CMO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Cent Missouri Points: 2696 |
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here's one!
https://metalwebnews.com/making-a-ball-turning-tool/ HTH Edited by JoeO(CMO) - 29 May 2020 at 7:04am |
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nella(Pa) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Allentown, Pa. Points: 3124 |
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12160 |
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Could you just put some weld on the end of the cable?
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chaskaduo ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5200 |
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Ball-with-Shank-End Roller Swage Wire Rope End Fittings https://www.mcmaster.com/wire-rope-swage-fittings/ball-with-shank-end-roller-swage-wire-rope-end-fittings-not-for-lifting/
Without the swag tool, you could drill a couple holes thru the shank, flux and braze or silver solder. Could do the same with the proper dia. nut (rounded off or not). Edited by chaskaduo - 29 May 2020 at 9:29am |
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LouSWPA ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Clinton, Pa Points: 25084 |
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that fellow sounds like Jimmy Stewart! |
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13693 |
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WOW,,,many great ideas as usual from this great bunch of fine folks,,,, ![]() ![]() Hey Joe O that looks to be a good one but requires a mill which I don't have,,,but,,,but,,I'm gonna get me one when I find a small table top model,,,, Nella,,thas a great video with some good ideas ![]() ![]() Hey Lou,,,that right there is something I could build,,,gonna start gatherin up materials,,,,, Hey TBone yeah,,I thought bout just using my new mig, pokin the cable almost to the end of new cable end I machined yesterday and just drop a few dollops of weld material on the cable end and call it good. My first idea was to get some fishing weights and melt em right om top of the cable. I bored the ID enough for some of the lead to migrate all around the cable,,,,ten four,,?? OH,,and Chask as usual you always come up with some great links,,,,,what you got,, a bonefide link finder on your home PC,,??
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24657 |
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If you could finds a real brass door handle with a 'ball' end, drill cable sized hole through THEN cut off the ball, slide onto cable, squish ball down onto cable in press, maybe 'dress up' the ball so it goes through the hole in the which drum.... I KNOW it'll take less time to do than me typing this out.... Jay
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chaskaduo ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5200 |
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Joe, "what you got,, a bonefide link finder on your home PC". It's a new app, but I don't think I can Patent it, if I could I would give you royalties for the "Bonefide Link Finder" name I would call it. But it is buried between my ears and I can't get it downloaded to disk. We'd be Gazillionaires I tell ya Gazillionaires.
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TMiller/NC ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Lenoir, NC Points: 1776 |
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DJ take an old file and grind a radius on the end for the size ball you need. You can make a left and right cutting edge that can by repositioning basically make a complete ball. Drill the size hole for cable in blank before turning ball. Using a file eliminates the need for heat treating, can grind the radius using a piece of round stock for radius gage. Flat stock placed under file for support if needed.
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13693 |
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Hey TMiller,,,,,,that right there sounds like something I would love to try,,,,,
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Thad in AR. ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Arkansas Points: 9653 |
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And now for the hillbilly solution. Tie a knot in the end. If you want a purdy ball on the end dip it in molten lead a couple three times and dress it up.
What ever you do, try to keep one wrap minimum at all times.👍 |
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chaskaduo ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5200 |
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The Rackensack Solution? ![]() What is "Rackensack"? . "Rackensack" has been used at least since the 1840's and is a humorous twist of the mispronunciation of "Arkansas". Jimmy Driftwood chose the name Rackensack because of its association with Arkansas players of traditional mountain music Edited by chaskaduo - 31 May 2020 at 9:52am |
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13693 |
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Man,,how I wish I could get my IPhone to do what I want it to do,,,,so's I could transfer pics to my PC,,,,!!!! I've tried most of the youtube videos to no avail,,,,,that sob just does not want to talk to the PC,,,, Anyways,,,Thad,,what I wanted was to keep the cable end "INSIDE" the drum like it was,,so the cable does not have to jump over it and throw it out of kilter when spooling it up. I finally machined a new one on the trusty lathe and then melted some lead into the end of new half ball. New piece fit right nicely into the drum and the cable spooled up real purdy,,,, ![]() Got everything lashed up and the "Engineered Modifications" turned out many wonderfuls as the thing works like a charm,,,now,,I got to go look me for something to make a good pull on it,,,,
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chaskaduo ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 26 Nov 2016 Location: Twin Cities Points: 5200 |
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Half Ball?? I'll leave that one alone.
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