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Gerald J. 
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 Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 6:00pm |
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The 9-24 and 11.2-24 are probably the same size. The tire standard for width marking changed sometime in the 50s, I have forgotten what year. Before the change the tire width number was the width between the rim flanges, in this case 9 inches. After the change the width number is the widest width of the tire, nearly always wider than the rim width, in this case 11.2" The 9-24 tire should be very close to the same width and the same outside diameter and circumference as the 11.2-24. Which says the 9-24 tire is likely a half century old. They did make good tires back then with very long lives.
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GreenMule
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Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 7:09pm |
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Ain't nothing wrong with that, good job and thanks for sharing
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Hubnut
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Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 8:11pm |
 Gerald J. wrote:
The 9-24 and 11.2-24 are probably the same size. The tire standard for width marking changed sometime in the 50s, I have forgotten what year. Before the change the tire width number was the width between the rim flanges, in this case 9 inches. After the change the width number is the widest width of the tire, nearly always wider than the rim width, in this case 11.2" The 9-24 tire should be very close to the same width and the same outside diameter and circumference as the 11.2-24. Which says the 9-24 tire is likely a half century old. They did make good tires back then with very long lives.
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Thank you Gerald. The 11.2 has a build date of 1989. Couldn't find a date on the 9-24. They are very close in diameter, but the 11.2 is noticeably taller. I guess the 9-24 is a bit worn. I appreciate the explanation. Steve
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1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
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Hubnut
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Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 8:16pm |
I also installed a speedi sleeve and new PTO shaft seal today. It was leaking like a sieve! Got parts at NAPA. Speedi sleeve is 99138, seal is 13865. 
Edited by Hubnut - 15 Jan 2018 at 8:23pm
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 8:50am |
Steve, Good solid fix on the seal and new speedi sleeve! That should be much better! Regards, Chris |
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Bill Long
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Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 2:48pm |
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Let me Congratulate you on the PAINS you are taking to bring my favorite back.
I am ashamed to say that when we repaired them we never took those precise pains.
You sir, are doing an OUTSTANDING JOB!!!
I cannot wait to see the finished product.
Thanks again!!
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Hubnut
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Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 6:04pm |
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Thanks guys. That's an expensive fix, but one that has worked well for me in the past.
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 9:43pm |
From a practical standpoint restoring tractors to make a buck or two when you sell one is wishful thinking. Even restoring a rather rare little AC like a IB Won't get you back what you have tied up in it, Worse is a run of the mill B or C that can cost more than restoring a IB to a ten ;point level. Do it for the fun you have huntin worn out Replacement parts and breathing paint fumes. For that matter first and formost Never write down WHAT YOU SPEND OUT OF POCKET or HOW MANY HOURS YOU HAVE IN THE PROJECT. Think of it as preserving a bit of history and restore your heart out for the good of all mankind from all walks of life. Time out for another cup of Joe, Kenny
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 10:26pm |
how to measure rear tires.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 10:42pm |
No way a 9.5 is the same size or almost the same size as a 11. 2. I can tell the difference without them right next to each other. Tire size in the old days was a 8., a 9, a 10,, a 12 and so on tire sizes back then matched rim widths
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Hubnut
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Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 6:31pm |
Ken in Texas wrote:
From a practical standpoint restoring tractors to make a buck or two when you sell one is wishful thinking. Even restoring a rather rare little AC like a IB Won't get you back what you have tied up in it, Worse is a run of the mill B or C that can cost more than restoring a IB to a ten ;point level. Do it for the fun you have huntin worn out Replacement parts and breathing paint fumes. For that matter first and formost Never write down WHAT YOU SPEND OUT OF POCKET or HOW MANY HOURS YOU HAVE IN THE PROJECT. Think of it as preserving a bit of history and restore your heart out for the good of all mankind from all walks of life. Time out for another cup of Joe, Kenny |
Kenny, You are absolutely correct. I love these old machines and find it therapeutic to work on them and make them whole again. Not in it for the money--that's for sure! Steve
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1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 6:32pm |
steve(ill) wrote:
how to measure rear tires. |
Thanks Steve
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Don(MI)
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Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 6:35pm |
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Keep up the great work! Posts like these make me want to be in a shop repairing an Allis or painting on these winter days. I don't have a good shop to do that today, maybe in the future.
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Galatians 5:22-24
"I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!"
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LeonR2013
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Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 6:57pm |
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I just wonder how hard two mismatched tires are on a tractor, or if turning slow like they do would save the gears. I know it's a bad deal on four wheel drive and other applications.
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Hubnut
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Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 8:53pm |
LeonR2013 wrote:
I just wonder how hard two mismatched tires are on a tractor, or if turning slow like they do would save the gears. I know it's a bad deal on four wheel drive and other applications. |
Good question Leon. Anybody think this could be a problem--two mismatched rears?
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 10:53pm |
Hubnut... here are a couple photos i promised you of an "orchard" model I built out of a standard B... very similar looking to an IB, but has the long torque tube, and homemade straight front axle.... your NEXT project ?
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Hubnut
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Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 2:59pm |
Was off from work today and it was warm enough to finish up the painting. I hate that part of the job! Tomorrow should be about reassembly. 
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 3:16pm |
Steve, I like the custom spray cart! Great idea! Pieces parts are looking real good. Regards, Chris
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Hubnut
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Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 4:51pm |
Started assembly today. I thought I'd get the whole tractor done and running. No. Brake assembly and 3 point assembly took longer than anticipated. I should be able to get it back together tomorrow.  
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 6:54pm |
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What all did you have to do for installing the Speedi sleeve? Were things SO wore that that was the only option to you?
I'm going to assume that the B is the same as the C and the CA and keep those numbers for future use Steve. I use my CA now for cutting grass and God only knows when I'll need to replace the seal in mine.
I used to use the 'C' for grass cutting and had 2 different size tires on it. I don't remember the sizes off the top of my head, but can get them if anyone is really interested. Anyway, I now have to replace SOMETHING in the left side. I am betting at the VERY LEAST it's the bearing, but who knows the damage to the shaft? I won't know until I get into it.
So I'm betting that UN EQUAL sized tires aren't good for the rear ends. I mean the bearing could have been ready to go, but what are the odds?.....
DANG, you go nice work Steve!!! Too bad you aren't closer........I could sit and watch you all day while I'm drinking a beer....
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Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 6:57pm |
Ken in Texas wrote:
From a practical standpoint restoring tractors to make a buck or two when you sell one is wishful thinking. Even restoring a rather rare little AC like a IB Won't get you back what you have tied up in it, Worse is a run of the mill B or C that can cost more than restoring a IB to a ten ;point level. Do it for the fun you have huntin worn out Replacement parts and breathing paint fumes. For that matter first and formost Never write down WHAT YOU SPEND OUT OF POCKET or HOW MANY HOURS YOU HAVE IN THE PROJECT. Think of it as preserving a bit of history and restore your heart out for the good of all mankind from all walks of life. Time out for another cup of Joe, Kenny |
You got it Ken!! I kept track of about every penny I spent on my first one,,,,,,,,OUCH!! Makes you think you don't ever want to do one again!! Not so much the big stuff, it's the little things that cost so much. And if you figured your time........how does LOOSING $50 and HOUR sound?? 
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Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 8:16pm |
Steve, Man its looking real good! Keep going, you almost got this one! Regards, Chris
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Hubnut
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Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 8:32pm |
Ted J wrote:
What all did you have to do for installing the Speedi sleeve? Were things SO wore that that was the only option to you?
I'm going to assume that the B is the same as the C and the CA and keep those numbers for future use Steve. I use my CA now for cutting grass and God only knows when I'll need to replace the seal in mine.
I used to use the 'C' for grass cutting and had 2 different size tires on it. I don't remember the sizes off the top of my head, but can get them if anyone is really interested. Anyway, I now have to replace SOMETHING in the left side. I am betting at the VERY LEAST it's the bearing, but who knows the damage to the shaft? I won't know until I get into it.
So I'm betting that UN EQUAL sized tires aren't good for the rear ends. I mean the bearing could have been ready to go, but what are the odds?.....
DANG, you go nice work Steve!!! Too bad you aren't closer........I could sit and watch you all day while I'm drinking a beer....
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Ted, Yeah, I wish there were more AC folks like you in my area. Young people don't like working with their hands like us old farts. The early Bs have a spiral groove in the PTO shaft to help oil the bearing. This groove will cut new seals--hence the speedi sleeve. Thanks for the info on the different sized tires. I really don't want to replace the tires. However, I got the 3 point to pull a finishing mower with this tractor. I may have to spring for similar tires. I thought because these have an open differential that the different tire size wouldn't matter. Thanks for comments on the work. Steve
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 8:33pm |
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Steve,Man its looking real good! Keep going, you almost got this one! Regards, Chris |
Chris, Thank you. I hope to get on it early tomorrow. Steve
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 8:52am |
Beautiful job Stevo! Its to nice n' clean to get dirty!! LOL! Three thumbs up man!  Steve@B&B
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Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 1:45pm |
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Hubnut
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Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 5:24pm |
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 7:54pm |
I must have missed something... what's that protruding from the battery box?
btw, the rest of the tractor looks just like mine... and then I wake up. superb work, sir!
Edited by drobCA - 21 Jan 2018 at 7:58pm
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3 Ford 8N's I loan to neighbors, but the '52CA, '41B and little B1 I do not.
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Hubnut
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Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 8:21pm |
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drobCA,
It's an old (new) foot switch I had leftover from something else (like on 8Ns). I figured there was no reason to buy anything I didn't need. Thank you for the comments.
Steve
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie"
1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie"
1972 314H
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Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 8:53pm |
I thought that looked vaguely familiar... very nice "owner engineering"!
but, wow... if the Fun Police ever find you out you are in for a huuuuge fine!!!.
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3 Ford 8N's I loan to neighbors, but the '52CA, '41B and little B1 I do not.
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