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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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I bought this B from the family that purchased it new. The engine is rebuilt and runs great. Just needs a little TLC (and paint).
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8237 |
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Steve,
Nice B! You don't waste any time gittin into them! Whats the plans for this one? What issues does it have? I would not mind having a snorty little B in the herd too. Would fit nice. B, WD, 45, D17! Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Chris,
I plan to fix her up and get a coat of paint on her. Nothing fancy. I have a Sitrex SM120 mower I plan to put on her. I bought the 3-point conversion to do so. The front rims are toast. What's wrong? Front bearings, steering box, vibration when running, front pivot is wore out, front rims are toast, rear rims don't hold with blocks, brakes need work (bands), it has a grab when engaging the clutch. Same ole. Nice fuel tank, runs pretty good. Love the Bs and Cs. I'm too intimidated by the D-series. I know the B/C series very well--every nut and bolt. Good luck with the 45. Steve |
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8237 |
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Steve,
They finally sold the D12 that was at the auction. Owner wanted $1000 at last months auction. It wouldn't start then. This time it was running smoking like mad. sheet metal not good at all. it sold for at or near $1200. You would do fine with a D series. Once you had one you would like it. a little easier to get on and off, but not buy much! Sounds like you have a good plan for rework and paint. Mower will make it a good working tractor too. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Bill Long
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bel Air, MD Points: 4556 |
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Nice looking B. May have some issues but really looks to be in good shape.
If you have to go into the stearing box good luck. I lost my religion more than once fooling with the box to adjust the play. Got it not too bad then just had to do better and got it out of kelter again. Anyway, thanks for taking such good care of my favorite. Look forward to seeing pictures and hearing progress reports. Love to see my favorite get such good care. Good Luck! Bill Long
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PaulB
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4670 |
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Paint??? really??? that looks better than some of what I use.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Pulled the hubs and bearings fell out in pieces. Pulled the spindles and they wore pretty bad, especially at the bottom. The bushings were probably about 1/32 of an inch thick (thin). I ordered new bushings, but the spindle shaft itself is worn down. Anybody got some spindles for a B? I think these may work okay. I don't expect to drive real far with the beast.
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8237 |
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Steve, Maybe have them welded and re-turned? Sound like me with the new WD45. Each time I look I find more things that were kluged up. Fixed a couple things today. You always get right to work on them and dont rest till they are purring again! Have fun! Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Thanks Chris. I can't reuse these spindles. If you're going to do it--it might as well be right the first time. I'm on the hunt for spindles. I need a parts tractor. I've been watching the 45 post. You're into now.
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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The work progresses slowly. Got the front end partially rebuilt and
painted. New spindle bushings installed. I'm trying something new with
this tractor. Fix as I pull things off. By the time I get to the end,
all I have to do is reassemble.
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8237 |
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Steve,
Repaired wish bone looks very good with bushings in place. I have toyed with the concept of fixing things as removed. Never seems to work for me! Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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BEK
Silver Level Joined: 05 Nov 2017 Location: Wilmington, NC Points: 216 |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Brad,
Two came out with a brass drift from the inside. You try to grab an edge and work it out. Two were like yours, no edge--almost gone. I take a hacksaw blade and slowly cut a groove into the bushing. You don't have to all the way to the support metal, but get close. Then, I use a drift on the outside to "peel" the bushing inward on itself. Takes some effort, but works for me. Probably not the correct way either, but it works for me. To put them back in, simply press them in. I use a piece of flat stock to cover the entire bushing. Go slowly. Good luck. Steve |
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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BEK
Silver Level Joined: 05 Nov 2017 Location: Wilmington, NC Points: 216 |
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Sorry, one more question. Your paint looks awesome. Rattle can or what brand? Thank you! - Brad
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Brad,
Rattle can here. I've used both. Steve |
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Made some progress this weekend. I pulled the engine and got it cleaned up, primed and painted. I still need to get the peripherals (oil filter assembly, distributor, valve cover etc.) cleaned, serviced and painted. The previous owner told me the engine was rebuilt and he could never get it started after the rebuild. The magneto was bad and it ran great for me. The back of the engine was spotless and the oil pump was obviously rebuilt. I disassembled it to check it out. I replaced the ring gear--it was a little worn. Making progress.
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8237 |
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Steve,
Looks awesome! You headed towards a totally cleaned up tractor if your not careful! Nice to check things out so you know what shape the tractor is in. Sounds like it was not monkeyed up like some are! Engine looks awesome! Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Gerald J.
Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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The shop manual might help further progress;
http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf Gerald J. |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Thanks Gerald. I've got several copies here I've acquired through my tractor purchases.
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Hubnut
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Made a little progress on my latest B project. The radiator was used in another B that needed one. I bought a new one for this B. I got the exhaust manifold, oil filter housing, alternator, and distributor installed. I also got a 3 point conversion for this B. Had all the parts sandblasted and painted. Also sandblasted other parts. There was some DEEP rust pitting in the seat frame and fender supports. Still serviceable though. I took the weekend off to do some woodworking. I found some 100 year old heart pine from a deconstructed hardware store that needed to made into something. Simply beautiful wood! I'll get on the B next weekend--or the next.
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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theropod
Orange Level Joined: 28 Sep 2017 Location: Arkansas USA Points: 217 |
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Posts like this make me sick! Sick with envy.
Gonna be such a nice B when you are done. I have yet to open up the front end of mine. I sort of dread it, but in for a penny, in for a pound. Great work.
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Put the bunny back in the box!
1938 B, 1977 Yanmar YM2200 No private messages: use email: theropod AT yahoo DOT com |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Does "theropod" refer to some work with saurischian dinosaurs?
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8237 |
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Steve,
I think your on the right track (no pun intended. ok pun intended) That front is looking very sharp! another good looking B coming along. Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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theropod
Orange Level Joined: 28 Sep 2017 Location: Arkansas USA Points: 217 |
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Most definitely. I was the executive director of a small natural history museum which focused on the very latest Cretaceous Hell Creek formation of northwest South Dakota. My persoanl interest was in the maniraptoran Dromeosaurid and Chirostenotes theropods as well as the tyrannosaurs.
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Put the bunny back in the box!
1938 B, 1977 Yanmar YM2200 No private messages: use email: theropod AT yahoo DOT com |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Very cool! |
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8237 |
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So a couple million years from now will someone be looking for old Allis parts? just saying!:)
Regards, Chris |
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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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theropod
Orange Level Joined: 28 Sep 2017 Location: Arkansas USA Points: 217 |
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When/if a paleo anthropologist finds a old Allis millions of years from now I would bet big money they would be excited about it, and do erything they could to save the remains. 99.999% of all dinosaurs that are found are missing “parts” too, and especially if the species are uncommon what is found is cleaned up and saved for posterity. One example from my own experience springs to mind. I found just the skull of a Pachycephalosaur, and several weeks work went into saving it. Finding just the head off of a B two million years in the future would probably spin up said paleo anthropologists as that skull did for me. I do get the joke.
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Put the bunny back in the box!
1938 B, 1977 Yanmar YM2200 No private messages: use email: theropod AT yahoo DOT com |
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Hubnut
Orange Level Joined: 30 Jul 2014 Location: Gainesville, FL Points: 1812 |
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Got a little done on the B today. I had the fenders sandblasted and they are rough. Deep pits and rust through. Had some sheet metal scraps in the shop, so I decided to fix the rot. Not a professional job, but it is strong and whole again.
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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LeonR2013
Orange Level Joined: 01 Jan 2013 Location: Fulton, Mo Points: 3500 |
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The easy way to take out those spindle bushings is to get a caping chisel (a narrow chisel that just cuts on one side). Drive it down between the bushing and spindle and it will cut the old bushing right out without damaging the spindle.
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Sugarmaker
Orange Level Joined: 12 Jul 2013 Location: Albion PA Points: 8237 |
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Steve,
As far as I am concerned it sure looks like a professional job you did on the fenders! Nice work! Happy New Year! Regards, Chris
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