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ac160 
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 Posted: 30 Jan 2023 at 6:53am |
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When you worked on the brake drum did you pull the whole shaft out or do it while the shaft was in the tractor? I am about to do the same on a CA when I have time.
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 30 Jan 2023 at 9:07am |
ac160, folks, I did the work with the shaft in the tractor housing. I believe to pull the shaft you need to have the drum and key off anyway. I did try to remove the shaft when the drum was off. But I guess I did not have the correct tooling as I could not move it outward with the exterior cap off. The outer bearing exterior cup must have to be pushed out with the bearing? I gave up and went back to cleaning the shaft the best I could to allow the new drum to fit on the shaft. I am sure there are folks on here that can tell you what the techniques are to get the shaft out easily? Looking forward to your project. Let us know how it goes! Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 30 Jan 2023 at 9:12am
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HudCo
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Posted: 30 Jan 2023 at 9:23pm |
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what size are your rear tires ?
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 31 Jan 2023 at 5:49pm |
HudCo, Humm? I should know and don't? Rim size is same as regular CA, So I think that is 24 inch? correct? I will try to check tomorrow. But one of the reasons I bought this was for the pretty good old Firestone rears. I did get the rear seals from Sandy Lake. Removed and installed the smaller. I did get the larger (outer) seal also, But a little late now that I have the brake drum in place. Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 31 Jan 2023 at 5:52pm
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 03 Feb 2023 at 5:17pm |
Folks, I did get the right rear tire off today. Also have the rear supported with steel sawhorses under the bar which has the pedals attached. I have started to clean the rear of some of the accumulated grease and grime. Not sure whare I will end up on this CA? We all know its a lot of work to clean and update these 70 year old tractors. Will try to get some pictures. Cold weather and some snow today. So most of the day was spent in the warmer shop. Hope things are good in Orange Land! Regards, Chris
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 11:22am |
Allis folks, the tire size on the CA = 12-24 Firestone Field and road.
We have the left final drive cleaned of grease and grime and set aside:
Have the CA supported on both sides:
ready to pull the right rear. Brake pin design on the top is awesome! Brake shoes on the right side were junk, Brake drum on the right is in pretty good shape, so I do not plan to change that. The seal in the differential has been replaced.;
Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 04 Feb 2023 at 12:57pm
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sparky
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 11:43am |
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Coming right along!
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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!
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plummerscarin
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 11:48am |
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Awesome job!
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 1:04pm |
Thanks guys, This is what these old brake shoes look like, not good at all:
Pulling the right final was easy:
Remove the cover from the right side of the rearend:
Pop out the old seal and install the new seal:
Sealant on the bolt threads
Now I need to get serious about clean up. The time to do that is now. Wolud be nice to get the back half of the tractor done while apart. What does that mean? I dont know maybe a coat of fresh orange paint?? I have not painted anything in the shop yet. And I did not make a dedicated paint room. Lots of things in here that we dont want painted with orange overspray! Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 04 Feb 2023 at 1:07pm
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TomC
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 1:21pm |
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You have it that far might as well pull the front tires,use tin foil to mask it and get out the paint guns, I painted mine in my barn, it took me a bit but I got a roll of plastic painter drop cloth and sorta made my own paint booth, I also made a barrier around the temp paint booth,and draped plastic over the other equipment and implements, it turned out pretty good, not a $3,000.00 paint job but probably better than factory.also used way low pressure
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Sugarmaker
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 5:39pm |
Tom, Yea your probably right! I will keep cleaning the dirty old CA for a while, since it needs that anyway. I know it wount pull any better with acoat of paint. But while pulling or at the pulls it represents me or friends and family pulling too. I do have several in there work clothes too. Have never used tin foil as a mask??? Humm?? Regards, Chris
Edited by Sugarmaker - 04 Feb 2023 at 5:40pm
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TomC
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Posted: 04 Feb 2023 at 7:21pm |
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I use tin foil to wrap anything I don't want paint on,a lot cleaner and easier than tape and you can shove it into corners and around stuff that tape is almost impossible to get it to stick to.works great
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 05 Feb 2023 at 7:20pm |
Chris! That Tractor is getting lighter! I don't think they have that light of a class to pull in! LOL!  It's lookin' good buddy. Yeah, treat the ole girl to a coat of paint. What the Hell. You might be able to pressure wash it this week. Supposed to be in the 50's round' here this coming week. I love it! I'll take this weather right to May......  Steve@B&B
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