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Hardwater000 
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Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 6:55am |
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Can anyone help me out with a Ross steering . The rod that runs from the pitman arm to the front left draglink? The pieces inside the rod I hav a spring and what the book calls a bearing it cups the ball home many pieces is in the rod I do have the spring and another piece that goes inside the spring and one cup that the ball end fits in and one the other side I have 2 cupped bearings that the ball rides on. Should both end have 2 cupped bearings. And what order do the pieces go inside the rod? If I'm missing anything where can a guy sour e these parts. I do have the screw in pieces that you use a big flat head screw driver to take out. I do have the parts manual but it's not clear on how many each end needs. Tia for any replies
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 8:00am |
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i have not had one off for a while, but one of the "CUPPED" bearings sets in the bottom, then the ball arm sets in it... then another cupped bearing sets on the ball... spring on top of that and the threaded plug on the end .... If you have too many parts, you can not get the threaded plug to install.. If you put in the plug and put it flush on the end and you still have too much END PLAY, your missing a part....... I do seem to recall there is a SPACER which looks like the CUPPED BEARING, but has no CUP in it... That may drop in the hole first befor the first CUP to take up excess space... Again the Threaded plug on the end should screw in approximately flush.... If it goes too far in, you need a SPACER.... If it will not screw in flush , you have too many parts..
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Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 9:23am |
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I do have a spring and 2 cupped bearings and the spacer that slides into the spring on one end. On the other end I have àll of the stuff but one of the cupped bearings. So I guess I need to find one cupped bearings do you know if they can be bought anywhere as a kit or individual. I looked up the part numbers with no luck.
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Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 9:27am |
look in the hole and make sure the CUPPED BEARING is not STUCK in the hole...
No, i have not seen aftermarket cups.. I have seen a couple complete RODS for sale on e-bay from time to time..
Again, the nuber of parts is not important. What is important is that the threaded end plate thread in approx flush and compress the spring to hold the BALL in place secure.
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Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 9:31am |
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If i was missing one, I would make one on the lathe, or.. i would go to the hardware store and get a CUP/ CONE bearing for a trailer axle and use the External race as the part you need... YES, it is not CUPPED, but more of a straight cut.. but i think it would last forever for your use.
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Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 9:31am |
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Yes I have done that. The one end was flush and the other end was in a lot more. When I pulled the rod off getting it prepared to paint is when I noticed this problem and the difference in parts is one had an extra cupped piece.which is why I assume it was why it screwed in farther
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Posted: 03 Sep 2024 at 9:36am |
Edited by steve(ill) - 03 Sep 2024 at 9:39am
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