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Posted: 26 Feb 2013 at 6:20am |
http://youtu.be/YBJVnGl407U wow this is impressive any one kno whats done to it pd or ps this would turn some ih and jd heads for sure
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cornbinder
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Posted: 27 Feb 2013 at 6:30am |
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impressive, that thing runs strong!
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DrAllis
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Posted: 27 Feb 2013 at 6:19pm |
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If you look close, you can see a tail of red fire out the pipe. I'd guess it was a Power Director and for sure the torque limiter is bolted down solid. Probably 350 to 400 HP without knowing all that's been done to it.
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NEVER green
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Posted: 28 Feb 2013 at 11:17am |
New to this forum and low and behold i see my tractor. Dont know who put it on youtube.Its a PD you can here it shift from 3rd high to 3rd high lo,T limiter is 6pad with doubled 7080 springs little thicker. American bosch 430cc 4000 rpm stock inj cut .024 stock lines put center dump ex man off UNI on with 3LM turbo. Pulled with non ported ex man then spent 20hrs porting and angeling pulled again big difference in power and flame. Pulled in 18500 duels but FWD still too heavy going to TWD & 12000. Internally eng stock but will be porting head bigger valves &bigger wheel in turbo . I was hopeing over 400 hp in video?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 28 Feb 2013 at 5:27pm |
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Stock 3LM ?? and what was the boost ?? 40 ish ?
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Posted: 28 Feb 2013 at 7:16pm |
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Yep stock 3lm, good qeustion my gauge only goes to 37. When i come off line at only 3200 rpms it buries it, looks to be about 42 if there were more lines, defenitly need bigger gauge.
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DougG
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Posted: 28 Feb 2013 at 7:27pm |
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So you still plan on doing field work turned up like this? Just curious, that flame means theres fire and its hot down in there!
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Posted: 28 Feb 2013 at 8:42pm |
If you are planning on installing a larger compressor wheel on the stock 3LM, I would advise against it. I had a buddy do that years ago and with the stock compressor wheel it ran good. With the bigger compressor wheel it was a turd. The stock 3LM is a pretty good turbo, but there are a few other better, newer, more efficient turbo's out there of the same size that would smoke a 3LM airflow wise. I would pick another turbo long before spending any money on a 3LM.
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Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 3:44am |
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Whats a little better than a 3 LM and still have the same size?
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O.P.S. Heads
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Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 8:42am |
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The stock 3LM 466 has a 2.32" inlet and around 2.75" outlet. If you are staying with close to those sized wheels there is a Borg Warner S300, a Garret GT37 or GT40, and a Holset HX40. I'm sure there are more than that, but those are a few I am somewhat familiar with. I am most familiar and partial to the Holsets. With his fuel delivery he may be able to spin an HX 45, HX 52 with a 63mm or smaller compressor, or smaller HX 50 - it just depends on which compressor wheel and turbine housing he would chose as there are a few choices of each for each model turbo. The HX 40 would be a safe bet and would out perform the old 3LM. It would definetly move more air and probably lug better.
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Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 9:14am |
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Most rules around here call for stock apearring or 3lm max on, some of those turbos couldnt use my difuser or 7080 elbow. Im planning on going from 2.3 to 2.5 garret or holsetand wont mess with ex side. I still have 3 point on maybe should do some speed plowing, funny video on yootoob of swedes almost rolling.
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O.P.S. Heads
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Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 9:34am |
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There have been many HX50 Holset center sections installed into a 3LM exhaust housing. A wolf in sheeps clothing so to speak. Never had one but I here they work very well. Any reputable pump and turbo shop can machine the housing to accept the smaller 2.8" out hx50 exhaust wheel.
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Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 9:35am |
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I'm not too educated on turbocharges but I find it amusing that my friend uses an innovative t61 on his motorcycle right now and plans to step up to a GT40 in the future. 1.3 liter four banger. 550hp. Turbo technology is taking huge steps forward. Its great.
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Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 10:17am |
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Hey guys, thanx for intrest in my tractor. The orange spectacular has a big pulling track and sled now so maybe some of those big 210,220,D-21s from down south could head up here? OH sorry, east too.
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Posted: 01 Mar 2013 at 11:06am |
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HEY I WAS THERE LAST YEAR ! SEEN THAT 8000 SERIES GO! WAS FUN TO WATCH. MY BOYS AND I WERE TRACK SIDE TOWARDS THE END AND THAT BUGGER THREW A REALLY GOOD FLAME OUT THE TOP. I HAVE A BETTER VIDEO ON MY I PHONE OF IT SAVED. I WILL BE THERE WITH MY TRACTORS FOR 2013 AND STAYING ALL WEEKEND. THE SHOW LAST YEAR DIDNT HAVE TO MANY TRACTORS PULLING BUT A CRAP LOAD OF GARDEN TRACTORS I AGREE SURE WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A FULL REGISTRATION.
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Allis fan for life ! B,C,2-WC'S,WD45G,D19G,190xt ,LLSS 8010, terra tiger refurbished
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Posted: 02 Mar 2013 at 6:55am |
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Theres a turbo page B+W maybe that has a page with charts breaking down the sizes and MM measurements :as popular as the 5.9 Cummins is you can pick up pretty cheap 40,s+ 50,s that are still good, cause ive found that turned up tractor pullin wrecks them any way!
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Posted: 02 Mar 2013 at 8:08am |
 DougG wrote:
Theres a turbo page B+W maybe that has a page with charts breaking down the sizes and MM measurements :as popular as the 5.9 Cummins is you can pick up pretty cheap 40,s+ 50,s that are still good, cause ive found that turned up tractor pullin wrecks them any way! |
I really like the S300 that is 2.36" as an upgrade from a 3LM. Night and day difference! I sell quite a few of them. Modern technology using a bleed groove(MWE). If you were to watch some of my videos, you can tell right when I took my 2.5" 3LM off and put the S300 on, cleaned up the smoke quite a bit. It's a $600 turbo too!
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 9:08am |
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Question for Ed? What are the outside dimensions on that 300s because right now the inlet housing of my 3lm is pushing on my side hood. Also is there enough room get that v band to fit into my 7080 elbow?
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Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 10:23am |
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The compressor housing is about the same size as a 3LM. The v band on the S300 gets turned down for my tractor, so I can slip my IH cast elbow right over it.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted: 19 Mar 2013 at 8:05pm |
Question for Ed? You said you sell turbos i was wondering if you could give me a quote for a s300-275 through a private message or list your buisness name so i can give you a call?Thanks
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Posted: 19 Mar 2013 at 10:22pm |
NEVER green wrote:
Question for Ed? You said you sell turbos i was wondering if you could give me a quote for a s300-275 through a private message or list your buisness name so i can give you a call?Thanks |
pm me, and I'll qoute price. thanks, Ed.
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210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 10:35pm |
Dang, I just watched that and got the goosebumps. Shez got er man!
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