Agco orange color?

That's the problem with common sense, it's not very common.

You don't see any new orange tractors in our parts, and rarely do you see a red tractor, unless it is an antique Farmall. Nearly everything you see in our area is JD. Then again, I'm not driving around the countryside taking polls of who farms with what.

I agree with you Clovis that it is puzzling why they don't push their tractors harder.  With or without orange.  Why not come into an area and backstop the dealer for a year and get some tractors out there.  Get them out in the fields even if it means losing money on 12-24 deals.  If the tractor is that good then it will sell itself after people see that it is a good machine.

  The lack of dealers for Ag-Chem will hurt.  Only one dealer in the state of IL.  My local custom applicator used to run RoGators but went to all Case-IH because lack of service and knowledge coming from people more interested in making money on construction equipment.  Giving the whole dealer network in the state to one dealer seems crazy.

Very nice quote, a bunch of us believe deeply in very thing.

Edited by steffensen - 11 Sep 2010 at 7:05pm

DREAM wrote: Just to put in my two cents here. It is my belief that Allis-Chalmers has been out of the agriculture business since Dec 6, 1985. Anything manufactured after that date is not the original. It would be the same as Ford (automotive division)being bought out by someone else and henceforth called Ford-xxx. It is not the same and will never be. Those holding on to the color for tradition are holding on to a memory, nothing more. Buy an AGCO product because it performs to your expectations and fits into your budget. A new company called Allis Chalmers would not be the same. A new company called Allis Chalmers with the same principles as the old one would be nice, but may not be able to survive in todays economy. The economic principles of this country and globally have changed.

steffensen wrote: nowversatile wrote: AGCHEM now migrating to Challenger, sales nosediving etc. The statements previous to this line may be true, I do not know. But this statement is not. AGCHEM may be painted the Challenger Yellow and carried by Challenger dealers. But the sales have not been tanking. The 2010 model year RoGators won many show awards; was very well accepted by customers and the Jackson factory was building like crazy. Now with the new drive package in the 2011 RoGator models and the CVT in the TerraGators; I haven't seen this much excitement in the market about AGCHEM in years.   nowversatile wrote: Most CAT dealers just want to sell Lexion combines and tracked tractors as that is their niche and understanding since CAT does the engineering and provides components for this tractor.   Not sure if you where referring to the Lexion only when you said that CAT does the engineering.  The engineering department in Jackson, MN (AGCO) is responsible for the engineering of the tracked tractor. Yes, there is a CAT engine and drivetrain in them. But the engineering done to combine all the components and create the machine is not done by CAT at all.   I am not trying to pick on you nowversatile, just wanted to comment on these.   Steffensen

Engineering IS done by Caterpillar for tracked tractors. Contract engineers on loan from Caterpillar which AGCO pays are on site and do the engineering. FACT!

 

 

1. Toured Jackson facility and was introduced to engineering staff as CAT subcontracts. Was also pointed out in one of the Ag magazines when 4WD was introduced that AGCO was using CAT engineering for development.

2. Rock solid internal info., to the tune of minor panic at corporate, lots of nervousness regarding launch of upgraded sprayers to stop the spiral.

Appreciate the update, I have always been one of the strongest supporters of AGCO throughout the years and previously AC. Some of my fondest memories are riding on C-II Gleaner combines as a child as well as driving home a new AC tractor in High school from the dealer. Unfortunately, as many here have posted and the market is saying, the current direction is misguided at best. Having had the pleasure of meeting Bob Ratliff and personnally talking to John Shumejda, Eddie Swingle and others, it is not likely these tremendous individuals would do the things to this company that this current jerk and his right hand gun-slinger  Doug  Griffin are doing. Market numbers are proving that, with tractor sales for AGCO NA down roughly half. Numbers for AEM just came out and the rest of the players in industry are up substantially. This just keeps proving our point over and over again. I visited HHD in Grand Island and walked by the AGCO lot on three occasions where two of the three times there were NOBODY close to the MF tractors and on the third trip, a younger child was in a cab of one tractor. Not the kind of excitement you would expect when corn is near $5/bushel (CBOT) or what was witnessed at Deere and CNH. I don't begrudge you for what you do, but I have good friends yet at the company and the spirit is not exactly jubilant. I wish all employees of the company the best and hope you can outlast this clown until new leadership comes into place that respects the market place and the traditions that make companies successful in their respective markets.

CJohnS MI wrote: nowversatile wrote: Appreciate the update LOL! Is that what you call it? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Things haven't been too bad for me. Busy with life...Love this forum though! Have to spend at least a little time reading the politics section to get a laugh or two in. And the pictures of the machines that people share are simply amazing.

There will be plenty of sheep that will go astry from AGCO

                                IG

 It is funny how the Agco reps seem to have a different story about what is going on.  As I said in an earlier post they had the bright idea that someone would possibly want an orange painted MF.  I guess they can tell people that when in reality they know most would not be happy with it.  It is the name to me more than the color of red paint that is the problem.