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    Posted: 16 Nov 2009 at 2:08pm
Will be running the E this weekend in corn and just looking for advice.
Have machine set to spec as per the manual.
Cyl clearance 3/8 inch, speed 500 rpm.
Fan doors wide open, Walkers set back.
Have seen people talking about filler bars,  I'am guessing by the manual
they want it to grind up the cobb instead of it staying whole.
any info is greatly appreciated.
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Sounds about right. Just don't forget to get off several times to see what is coming out the back. I had to close the fan some to keep corn from blowing out the back.
It will grind up the cobs pretty good the way it is or at least it did  for me.
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Brian, We've ran a F2 for many years your e will be similar 3/8 is too close you'll grind the cobs. Filler bars help the cylinder to roll the cobs out whole and keep from chunking the cobs. In dry corn we run about 430 on the cylinder speed and 5/8 clearance with 3 concave bars installed. More concave than that and you'll crack a lot of corn. Keep that old girl full and she'll do a fine job! Hope this helps, Steve
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Try starting at 5/8" cylinder clearance. 
Use at least 4 concaves 1 on front rock door, then in the #2, #4 & #5 positions on rear door.
Open the sieve [bottom screen] all the way.
Open the chaffer [top screen] to thickness of your finger.
Open the air all the way.
Run the cylinder near the 550-600 rpm setting.
Ideally, you want to keep the cobs as whole as possible.  Filler bars are used for high moisture corn, 30 percent & higher.  They help keep softer ears/cobs from getting cut up from the spaces between the rasp bars on the cylinder.  Have fun.  They are good machines for corn.  Like Dick L. said, get off and check the rear for shelling action, kernel losses, etc....

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Thanks for the replies.
Just trying to pick as many brains as possible to get the settings dialed in.
Keep the tips comming no matter how small it may seem.
Thanks  to all,
hoping to have video as well as pics to post back.
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Not supposed to run one on the rock door, check the manual.
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Jordan,
 My manuals counterdict themselvs.  The manual for the 2E (E240)corn head state to run concave on rock door if rocks may be picked up. This one also shows how to set combine.
The manual for the KL238 (which is the one I'am using) states not to use one the door, but this is also for K,L,F combines.
I plan on using the 1, 3, 5 concave positions. If no rocks are picked up will resort to the 2, 4, 6 positions.

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I run a channel bar on my rock door and have good luck with it.  My K2 is a newer version of the E and I set it similar to the above post.  5/8 for starters on the concave, I shut my finger in the top sieve and shut the bottom one until the sample cleans up.  I have shut it too much and plugged my tailings auger full.  Learning process though, I ran about 800+ bu. through it tonight in just about 2.5 hours.  My tach got wires chewed through so on cyl speed I have been running it about three cranks below full speed, I will slow it down as the corn dries down.
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With my two row head I have picked up stones trying to pick up corn I smudge over with a tire.  I would run a bar on the door just because the concave bars are easier to change than the cylinder bars, and cheaper too.

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