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    Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 6:09am
50 years ago, Allis-Chalmers built the following tractors during their 1971 production year?

Model(s), engine, #built

One-Sixty diesel, 995(built in France),
One-Seventy/170 gas, 384,
One-Seventy/170 diesel, 309,
175 diesel, 159,
One-Eighty diesel, 1162,
185 diesel 977,
One-Ninety III diesel, 76
One-Ninety XT III diesel, 1771
Two-Ten diesel, 961
Two-Twenty diesel, 161

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Charlie175 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 7:59am
The D17 was the last of the ultra high volume models with close to 85,000 made.

I think the 190XT was the last relative high volume produced model after that followed by the 185. Production numbers really fell off in the 1970's as 1 tractor could do the tasks of several covering more acreage 

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What AC had the longest production spand? B and maybe 185?
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The B, made across 19 years.

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'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD
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Always thanks for this info !
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AC7060IL

Thanks for posting very interesting info

My 2 cents(CDN) worth, D17 and 185 were two of the best of many Allis Chalmers models and are still going strong today.  Resale numbers very strong 
1963 D17D Series III. 1965 D15 Series II. 1965 D17 Series IV. 1975 185. 1978 716H. 1979 716H. 1965 780 Harvester/1R&DC. 1957 Model 73 SC 4 Furrow Plow
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The 190/190 XT confuses me, ALLIS still offered a straight 190 at the time ?
Thanks for the breakdown BTW Wink !
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I was surprised there were that many 180’s manufactured on the 185’s second year! Same can be said for the 175.

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I wish they had put a diff lock on the series 4 17's. One of my 3 favorite AC's.
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Allis really hurt themselves by not having a fully independent pto. Made them very unhandy especially on a forage harvester. Tom
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They made a lot of great models, each having their strengths and weaknesses. I myself have no problem with the my XT not having live pto. The power director allows me to compensate for that. Yeah it would have been nice on all D series and 100 series tractors, but it is what it is. Just wish the end didn’t have to happen. But I’m still happy we are still using them on the farm after 35, 40, 50, 60, 70,80 years after they were born. Not many manufactures can say that!

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So true AC720.  I couldn't of said it better.
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

The 190/190 XT confuses me, ALLIS still offered a straight 190 at the time ?
Thanks for the breakdown BTW Wink !

The 190 and 190XT are basically 2 separate model tractors, so from 65 on they were both built, just not many ordered the 190, most wanted the added power the XT offered. Once the XT was replaced by the 200 (same hp class tractor) the 190 was built for another small run into 73 as records show. 190's were good tractors, not enough power to hurt themselves. The 190XT on the other hand was plagued with engine and drivetrain issues!
210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers!
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I put a coat of wax on every one of those models listed above before they went out to the new owner.  Man, that was a long time ago...
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Brian F(IL), thanks for your input. Did Paxton have an AC dealership?
If I may ask - How long after an order was placed did it take the dealership to receive a One-Sixty? Were they constantly stored at specific shipping port(s), awaiting to be picked up by truck? Or did AC rail them from shipping port to Milwaukee, then be available to dealerships?

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AC7060IL, I can answer some of your questions, but not all.
Yes, there was a dealership in Paxton by the name of Muller Implement Company.  However, my dad and uncle's dealership was in Onarga, IL.  It had the name of Funk Brothers Implement Company.

I'm not sure about how long it took to get a One-Sixty.  We didn't sell too many of them as I recall.  I do remember the other hundred series tractors arrived on a flat-bed semi from Milwaukee/West Allis.  The name of the trucking company was Tractor Transport.  Kind of ironic, but most of the semi-tractors that delivered the AC's were painted green. lol

The trucker would show up at the dealership.  We didn't have a loading dock so we would follow him uptown to the railroad loading dock and unload them there.  Then it was about a 7 block drive back to the dealership.  Sometime after that and before they were sold, I put a coat of wax on them (usually just before they were sold as they sat outside until sold).  HTH.
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Originally posted by injpumpEd injpumpEd wrote:

Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

The 190/190 XT confuses me, ALLIS still offered a straight 190 at the time ?
Thanks for the breakdown BTW Wink !

The 190 and 190XT are basically 2 separate model tractors, so from 65 on they were both built, just not many ordered the 190, most wanted the added power the XT offered. Once the XT was replaced by the 200 (same hp class tractor) the 190 was built for another small run into 73 as records show. 190's were good tractors, not enough power to hurt themselves. The 190XT on the other hand was plagued with engine and drivetrain issues!
Thanks for the clarification Ed Wink .
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An important transitional note about that era. None of the 1971 AC farm diesel tractors offered any TI (turbocharged Intercooled) engines. That wouldn’t happen until 1973 with the introduction of the 7050.

During the 1968? timeframe, the “Big AL” 844 cubic inch 6138I 25000 diesel was being initiated. The AC engineer’s intercooler added to the Big AL was gaining noticeable hp. Although Big AL fell short in the trucking industry, it’s intercooler’s increased hp became a mainstay for all the later Ag Equipment & possibly the entire diesel power industry.

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