The problem with this whole thing is the post it self.. truth be told I don't give a rats a$$ how you "fix" your tractor or if the stupid things you do hurt you. What I do think about is the next guy who has that problem and does a google search and finds that post. He sees the pic and decides it's a good fix, does it and the thing falls in half. this is an cutting a hole in a cab floor to get easier access to a hydraulic hose or trimming the hood to make it easier to get the air filter out the transmission and bell housing or major structural components of every tractor don't cut them up!

I'd give him $45 a ton for it but I want that piece he cut out also.

In pretty much every tractor that runs a standard clutch system on the flywheel they have an access port there or in from the side or top.   

Mrgoodwrench wrote: The problem with this whole thing is the post it self.. truth be told I don't give a rats a$$ how you "fix" your tractor or if the stupid things you do hurt you. What I do think about is the next guy who has that problem and does a google search and finds that post. He sees the pic and decides it's a good fix, does it and the thing falls in half. this is an cutting a hole in a cab floor to get easier access to a hydraulic hose or trimming the hood to make it easier to get the air filter out the transmission and bell housing or major structural components of every tractor don't cut them up!

Maybe if the metal is so thin there you hurt it more than if it were thicker?? I agree that this is the exact cobbled up mess that makes these tractors so cheap. I bought a running 7050 one time at an auction for $1500 that was being represented as having a transmission failure. A few hours labor and a $200 TL disc and I had a decent tractor for $1700. If taken care of that tractor would last you a lifetime. How many other NEWER tractor makes use a torque limiter disc? Ford/New Holland did pretty sure Case did. I'm not telling you what to do, but if I was looking for a tractor and seen that I could only imagine how other problems were addressed as they came along.

Everyone: Why do you keep egging him on? I guess you all enjoy it too much. The point has already been made that it may be a bad idea, so when people find this thread later, they won't think it's a preferred fix. Just walk away and let him have his opinion...

Tcmtech: Why do you keep egging them on and threaten to scrap just to keep the argument going? You enjoy it too much too.

Why is it that people feel so much more free to argue when they're hiding behind the Internet hole than in person?

On second thought, I guess if everyone is getting so much enjoyment out of this, why stop? LOL

Allis dave wrote: Everyone: Why do you keep egging him on? I guess you all enjoy it too much. The point has already been made that it may be a bad idea, so when people find this thread later, they won't think it's a preferred fix. Just walk away and let him have his opinion... Tcmtech: Why do you keep egging them on and threaten to scrap just to keep the argument going? You enjoy it too much too. Why is it that people feel so much more free to argue when they're hiding behind the Internet hole than in person? On second thought, I guess if everyone is getting so much enjoyment out of this, why stop? LOL

A guy joins an enthusiast's forum.

Calls the tractors the enthusiasts are fans of junk, poorly designed, dumb, won't listen to advice about things (more the oil level thread than this one).

Nah...that won't cause an argument!

If it's a low hour machine like you say, then why is it's next stop the scrap yard? How many hours do you put on a machine before it's scrap. I can put lots and lots on ours. Maintenance is key. Without it you'll be selling junk to the scrapper in only a few years. What's more profitable, to spend $3,000 every few years on another tractor orkeep the one you have in good repair. My 7050 I bought in 1997 or 98 for $7,850. It was cheap for that day and for it's condition. I never have considered abusing it because it was cheap. I change the engine oil on time, I change the transmission and hydraulic oils on time, I grease the axle and steering and 3 point every day I use it before I use it and I've fixed what ever has needed fixing and it has served me well and it still looks great and functions great.

I've seen people take a beautiful pickup or car or even a tractor and within two years it's total junk because they run on a zero maintenance policy. I've seen others run the same vehicle for 20 years and it still operates real good. That all said, there are limits but a low hour 7050 to me is very valuable and would receive proper maintenance from me........ but that's me.


Edited by Lonn - 01 Nov 2016 at 8:13am

Not to beat a dead horse here, but one of your many arguments for butchering the tractor was other manufacturers have an access hole under the clutch. While that is true, the part your forgetting is the access hole usually has a thicker cast that surrounds the hole to keep the integrity of the casting sound, and as other have mentioned you have square scored corners so any stress will go right to those corners and start to crack, as you will notice any access hole has rounded corners for just that reason.  You guys think there is no engineering in that cast because it was thin, well let me explain original structures to you. When I got out of high school I worked at a lumber yard truss mfg company. We made all the country kitchens across the midwest as components and than they were shipped to location and a crane erected the restaurant so it could be open with in weeks rather than months. We shipped a complete restaurant out to Denver, but there was one roof truss missing, it wasn't noticed until it got on site. No big deal right, except the trusses were 60' and we only needed to ship one to Denver, from Wisconsin. One engineer thought we could cut the truss in half and put it on top of a rack on a pickup truck to save freight costs, so they ran that model threw the computer to see what it would take to put the integrity into one 2x4 and 2x6 made truss. It was going to take over 2000 bolts to hold a plate to give it the original strength, and the problem was when you drilled 2000 holes into the wood it would have made it useless. We had to send a semi with one truss to fix what was screwed up. 

Kcgrain wrote: ........... and if I took that tractor into a repair shop and they did that to a tractor of mine, that mechanics stones would be on an anvil, and Id have a ball peen hammer,,,,,if you get my drift!

lol, that scenario brings up a tearful wince.

........not doubting your account of the truss problem, but 2,000 holes ? 
True, there wouldn't be much wood left.
I've often wondered about bolting joint plates to structures such as trusses.
Seems that some of the wood ends are severely weakened by all the holes put in.
The church we attend has those type of roof trusses.  Looks scary to me.
The weakest area is the group of holes farthest from the ends.

Tcmtech wrote:   But since you brought it up, when and where did I ever say anything about leaving the forum?  It should have been obvious that statement related to that thread being I haven't been back there since but for several on this forum I have come to find  that the context of a topic seems to be incredibly difficult to grasp and follow.

Yeah, we know. Your communication skills are second only to your vast knowledge and mechanical aptitude.

You're right. It's not you. It's the rest of us.

I've never had a torque limiter failure so not a past problem for me at all.

Wow, just read earlier post about transmission oil on 7050. Let me know where you trade and sell your equipment so I never buy a piece owned by you. You're totally ignorant. Do you even own a operator's manual for any of your equipment? If you do, do you read it? And if you read it, do you follow it or do you always decide you are too smart for such?

Lon, he has no need for an operators manual. He knows more than what is in any book, just ask him.
Just an arrogant, know it all, smart a$$ed prick!

A deep hole is only bad if you're standing in it. Now if'n your standing over it and a potty break is next on your to do list...... well that hole doesn't look so bad but from below it's pretty ugly. tcm is the one at the bottom it appears.