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AC One-Eighty/185 left side lever?

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    Posted: 21 Nov 2020 at 1:52pm
What’s the lever located on the left of a One-Eighty’s & 185’s steering wheel operate? Thanks

Edited by AC7060IL - 21 Nov 2020 at 1:58pm
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The pto, can     be mechanical or hyd.
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Ok, so was hydraulic pto an option only? Is there any indication(decal?) of mechanical vs hydraulic pto?
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WOW, very good questions EmbarrassedEmbarrassed . Our 180 has that particular lever, and I just assumed Confused that that automatically meant "hydraulic" engagement. Now I am looking forward to a reply from Doc/Mac/Tbran Wink
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On my 180 it is the hydraulic PTO
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Look down under tractor at the pto drop box. If there's hyd lines going to it its hyd pto. And good question on if there was decals
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Just what do you have?? A 180 or a 185 ??
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Many years ago two older gents came in and ask what were the 2 levers for on the left hand side of the steering wheel. I informed them there were never two levers there and explained the function of the linkage for mechanical and hydraulic operation. Three days later they brought me pictures of TWO levers on the LH side... !!!! I sent the pictures to Norm Swinford and it stumped him.  He checked around and at one time there was an engineering exorcise to allow the pto to be decoupled so as to be able to be connected with the engine running ,,,  lost the photo but the guys at the shop still make fun of me being showed up by to elderly gents.  Norm said that one was probably let go or sold at surplus with out removing the extra lever...  just a bit of trivia... 
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Tbran, if one tractor had it, would there be drawings on a parts book page? If one tractor had it, how many more would-a, could-a had it?
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no as stated it was an engineering exercise which Norm stated most likely - it proved too costly and not enough demand  - was sold as was the series VI D 17... No one ever saw another that I know.. 
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Where would the "mechanical" engagement lever have been located on a 180/185 ??
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Same place as a D-17. Very close to the clutch pedal pivot, which on a 180/185 is behind the battery box.
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Thanks Doc
Not to change the subject on models, but where was the lever/rod for the pto engagement on the WD ? I'm drawing a complete blank as I was only 8 years old when we ran one Cry


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Was it the same as a 170 ?
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Originally posted by DougG DougG wrote:

Was it the same as a 170 ?

Similar but not the same I believe, The 170 had the d-series style torque tube with mechanical power director and no option for dual or hyd pto.

The 180 had updated bigger torque tube with hyd power director and room for hyd pto clutch, but the lever to actuate the pto coupler comes out of the housing in the same location, right under where the p.d. clutch sits in the housing.
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Late 185s did not have the disconnect on outside.
WD was bolted to steering post down by brake pedals.         MACK
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I have a 185 with the mechanical pto and the engagement lever is in the same place as the hydraulic engagement lever which is on the left side of the instrument panel. There is a rod going from the lever down to the arm that is located behind the battery box. Hope this helps. Don Jr.
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Originally posted by MACK MACK wrote:

Late 185s did not have the disconnect on outside.
WD was bolted to steering post down by brake pedals.         MACK
Thanks Mack, was it a "pull" lever by any chance ?? Side note, did the WD have the ability to "lock" a brake pedal for stationary type work ?
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WD & 45 locked both brakes with a cam attatched to a pull rod. Set em hard or you'll hear that "clank" and away she goes.

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The WD was a pull push knob.          MACK
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