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AC LOGGING 2019 RESTORATION HAS BEGUN

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    Posted: 15 Apr 2020 at 8:41pm
Ok...thought I should start a post about the restoration and replanting of our 2019 logging project of our burned timber that we were able to salvage. This timber was planted in 1958 and burned in 2017. We started logging operations a year ago April 29th and finished in July...when the sawmill pretty much cut us off...didn't want any more salvage logs..even though they were ok.  So hoping to do a lot of work with different ACs for the prep work....might even get a 21C with a brush rake going. The only other off brand equipment should be our CAT 312 excavator....and TIMBCO 445 feller buncher. All this prep work will be done now...thru summer..fall...and early winter leading up till planting time  begging mid January...so my hope is to post with pictures and videos whenever there is progress...
   So some pictures of a year ago before we started logging...looked like this

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  So this is what it looks like today
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Cool thanks for sharing. What kinda operation do you have. Grow trees for lumber.
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Thanks for sharing Mel.  
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Thanks here too! Was not aware so much was salvageable.
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I would think trunks on those large trees should have alot of salvageable lumber but I suppose after being dead after so many years they start drying out. Dangerous logging with dead branches and tops falling,best to use a machine with a safe cab.
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Thanks for sharing, interesting should look great when your done.
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I'm surprised it's solid, salvageable and not blue stained/borers. I worked for Mich DNR in forest fire and forestry for 30 yrs. Every time we got into a large fire salvage situation the pine (red, white, jack) it had to be cut within a month or two at the most, or the beetles had it riddled with holes and stained. We dropped prices to less than half or a third original stumpage, and still didn't get a lot of bids due to short time window, windfall tangles to try to process and char issues with harvesting.    
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That is too bad. There is a lot of board ft of lumber in that stand. Thank you for the pictures.
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thanks for posting the pics MEL, I sure enjoy them and your stories!
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you sure waste lots of good firewood! guess if ya hafta do it...hey...I know...on them piles that you can't get going...park one of them blue ugly trucks on top of the pile, they'll hold the logs and brush down tight so they burn better! less air pockets! (poke,poke)
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do you burn pine Shamer  
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Thanks Mel,
 Enjoyed your video and the nice Ford work trucks too! Wow lots of work there! You have the equipment!
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Ok...Let me answer some questions...before you get to far ahead of me.   Mike...our operation is anything for a "buck''   The business started out as sand and gravel...branched out into commercial logging in the 1970s/80s...general engineering contractors..migrated into precast septic tank manufacturing in the 1970s...so we could sell more gravel..gave up the gravel for septic tanks and waste water business.Gave up the logging too...kept our Timber Operators License current...don't know why....but now I do.
  Oh...forgot...we also have some cows we run on our property that's been in the family for over 100 years.   Oh...our Allis Chalmers affliction came from our father who had bought ACs back in the 1950s for his logging operations.  We just started year 48.

   So Steve's right on also about some of the timber issues. The bug issue was a big one. That's pretty much what stopped us. Sometimes here in California you might get up to 3 years before the bug damage stops harvesting.  The Ponderosa Pine that we were harvesting did not have a blue problem...but the bugs were getting after it. Here's some pictures of bug damage....the logs we were harvesting were not this bad yet...these are some that we brought to our yard for possibly chipping for a biomass project
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So Thomas wants to know if Shameless burns pine?....sounds to me like his preferred fuel is blue Ford trucks...LOL...don't want to tell him that my 05 Ford died 3 days before Thanksgiving...and I just got a new blue one in service yesterday.

Chris.....Mostly old AC equipment

  So...Going to go check out the burn piles tomorrow...post pictures as soon as possible

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I like your answer Mel thanks for sharing. You do nice work with everything you do.
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Dont those bugs make that expensive character wood Smile if you saw it for lumber now?
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Ok....DanWi...yes that character lumber is pretty cool stuff...but the sawmill just is not impressed that much with a steady diet of it.
  So I followed up on last weeks burning...it went well..thought I would try brush raking some of the burned pine trees that we were planning on cutting with the feller buncher.....more fun brush raking.
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I could see a timber frame home with a pile of that wood sawed into boards for the interior walls.
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Sweet rake Mel, hard to imagine that Man's Tractor sits on the same rails as my little 7G.
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Here's an update video....if I don't do it as soon as I can ...it probably won't happen.
 Dave....I made some comments also about our 7G undercarriages
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Noted the width difference on 11B here of those bolt patterns as to my 7G, my Simmel rails are not truly square as to pattern but not that exaggerated as to width change.
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thanks for the update MEL, yes Thomas i've burnt lots of pine, but none that could be used for firewood, just the smallest left over stuff. i didn't realize the bugs burrowed so deep into the logs, just thought they squiggled along the outside i guess! i burn piles of tree branches all winter long and sometime thru the summer too, my back is getting to bad to do to much more right now, and can't take the heat much anymore either, last few years i've been cutting trees at night with the help of some good lighting. lots cooler then. last few big trees i cut down, i had my truck parked about a foot away so i could lean against it while chain sawing the trees down. that worked pretty swell. anything 1-1/2 inches thick gets saved for firewood, no matter what kind of tree it is.  
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Ok..Here's another follow up. Trying to get burning done before May.  Usually after early May we stop burning due to fire season getting close.  We'll be able to continue piling all summer if we have time and burn after it starts raining in the fall. They won't plant trees until Feb.
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man...you need sum tires on them piles!!!! 
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Great post Mel , i like the mans tractor 


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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

man...you need sum tires on them piles!!!! 

Wink Good thing Mel doesn't have more friends like you.LOL

LOL This is the Land of Fruits and Nuts. Wink The only good smoke is from pot that has had all the taxes payed on it.LOLLOLLOL
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last time our local fire dept had a controlled burn ona old house...it sure was putting out alot of black smoke. you see...no one was watching/guarding that old house the night before! lol...ya'll figger it out!
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Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

last time our local fire dept had a controlled burn ona old house...it sure was putting out alot of black smoke. you see...no one was watching/guarding that old house the night before! lol...ya'll figger it out!

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Ok...A video of progress on our restoration project. The lumber being milled will be used to rebuild a camp ground that is near the logging site.  It should make Warrens' day...were using a Lucas mill...and some of these logs were skidded with the AC HD6...his favorite AC tractor.....Warren you out there?  Any way the Lucas mill is pretty cool and definitely cut high quality lumber. This "RENEWABLE RESOURCE"concept is pretty interesting too. We planted these trees 62 years ago...fire destroyed or killed them...we were able to salvage some to rebuild buildings that were burned as well as selling logs commercially to supply lumber to market. Seedlings will be planted this coming season to start the process all over again.  Not even going to mention the carbon sequestration that will happen with all the new seedlings...noooo
   


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Great stuff Mel.  Didn,t realise that you guys knew Warren Lucas.
Hes a great guy; has been over to see me and a sew other AC mates in new zealand, and have shown him around and even got a few 'treasures' for him. Was Alot of HD6s came to new zealand, probably more than anywhere else in the world. Is even alot of the very last batch made; 25000 series; here too.  
Will send warren a e mail today telling him about your video.
Cheers and thanks for sharing  Mel and Dave.
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