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A BIG ONE coming for New Orleans

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    Posted: 12 Sep 2021 at 5:15pm
hmm, I was thinking more up in NY,NJ,PA area that had the bad floods
but everyone has(had...) water heaters, drywall, insulation, carpet,cars, etc.....
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Not many Furnace sellers in LA, weather there hardly drops into the 60s.  When does all manner panics occur.
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I wonder how many won't have HEAT this winter ? or hot water...gotta be a zillion needing new furnaces and such.....
yet another shortage....
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That be Swamp South Jesus, Cajun Country, most do not NEED Electricity.
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Still around 150,000 with out power in La...About 95% of that in New Orleans south to the Gulf.
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We were lucky up here in the left hand corner of the state. We're in "high ground" so to speak compared to 50 miles East of us toward NYC. Folks that'a way got clobbered. Everything under water. We were out of power a few times because of fallen trees. The ground here in NJ has been saturated big time with all the storms we've been gettin'. Big top heavy trees fully leafed just topple over taking down a few spans of wire with them.  I've gone through more gasoline in the ZT this year mowin' the lawn. I can't keep up wit' it! Our crews were pretty busy for a while. Even though I was on vacation retiring out, I was still in touch with quite a few of the linemen I worked with over the years. We've had three hurricanes come passin' through in the past 2 months. That's more than we had in 10 years!  Sheesh!  I don't miss those 16 hr. days on storm duty that's fir' sure!!
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At 12 feet below sea level I'd tell em to invest in some soap and enjoy.
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   Working in a area like that and worrying about getting power reinstalled isn't a thing that's going to happen overnight and the news media keeps harping on it, can't they find something better to talk about
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that area is not suited for ANYTHING..
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You've got predominately swamp land, and you want to put underground electric in it?  That'll sure give them gaters something to think about!  It also would be cool to watch the cities light up when the tidal surge filled the underground manholes with water!  I don't think that area is very well suited for underground electric.
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well at least they don't need FURNACES for winter, unlike the poor souls in the NE section of the USA....Though I wonder WHERE the furnaces, water heaters, fridges,stoves etc. will be made ??
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More than 400,000 people are still without power nine days after Hurricane Ida hit Louisiana.

As of Tuesday afternoon, 412,759 people were without power, according to numbers from PowerOutage.US.

Ida made landfall on Aug. 29 and left more than 1 million people without power in Louisiana. The Louisiana Department of Health confirmed Tuesday that the death toll in the state is now at 15.

Entergy, one of the utilities that provides power in Louisiana and Mississippi, said Tuesday that it has restored power to 60 percent of its 948,000 customers in both states that lost power, or about 571,000 customers.


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This includes 54 percent of its customers who lost power in Louisiana and all of its customers who lost power in Mississippi.

Entergy said that for some of the communities that were hit hardest by the storm, power should be restored no later than Sept. 29, though estimates are subject to change.



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Jay Wink  come on you know every business that gets bigger than what you and I can do  without hired help Nuke just explodes the cost.LOL Only dumb farm boys work for less than the real cost.

Pacific Gas and Electric (or Pacific Graft and Extortion if want to be sarcastic ) is big and just no way the right hand knows what the left is doing. And to deflect some of the blame is using contractors to do jobs such as pole inspection. 

Over 40 years ago a lineman I knew had a pole break with him climbing it. He lived and healed and climbed more poles for PG&E. But the condition of poles was watched much more. But still did not replace things all that much.

The line here was new in 1948, from what I was told.Wink They replaced a pole or 2 when new transformers where put in but not many. But this summer they have rented extra trucks running all over most poles are getting replaced. 

But back to not knowing what was going on. Last fall they had a crew out walking the line. One person drilled a whole in the pole, second pumped a chemical into pole to slow rot, third plugged the whole and put a tag on the pole so all knew it was treated. Why spend money on 70 year old pole a year before replacing them. Wink I am assuming the decision  was make it look like we care after all the bad press PG&E has gotten lately.  But now they want to raise the rate 20% to pay for all the deferred maintenance. 

So the company servicing New Orleans could put up a new line after every hurricane if SOMEBODY WAS WILLING TO PAY FOR IT. 

I try to do my part. Every time the arborist comes and says they need to cut some branches back, I say take the tree down and be done with it. As this is another contractor that is not the way it is done. As many of my citydot neighbors don't want even a branch cut back. So they snip a few every year, but really do nothing. 

As inefficient as the current situation is if government took it over like the governor is trying to do it will cost more and be worse service. 

Prayers for those in New Orleans waiting for the power to come back. And for a genius to come and run their company to balance service and cost. To get the most for the least. 
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Its all about the $$$$$$$.... but if you put up poles 10 TIMES, it starts to look like a good idea ($$$)  to go underground.
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I shake my head wondering who'se in charge that allows  POLES and OVERHEAD wires, in an area, kinda WELL KNOWN, to get hurricanes, on a semi regular basis...

seems to me a LITTLE common sense  would be to go underground....
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As of Friday morning, Entergy restored power to more than 40,000 customers. ... ( about 700,000 to go)...

Entergy provided an update Thursday where officials said all damage assessments will be completed by Thursday night. So far, crews have identified 837 poles, 288 transformers, and 564 crossarms that need to be repaired, according to Entergy.

Entergy released the following information on restoration times:

"The estimated times of completed restoration come after an extensive damage assessment by thousands of workers, which has thus far revealed more than 14,000 damaged or destroyed poles, 2,223 damaged or destroyed transformers, and 155 destroyed transmission structures.

"The assessment continues in the most damaged areas, but in parallel, the restoration process is well underway. Thus, the preliminary estimates for restoration reflect completion dates, but service to many customers will be restored before these dates. Nearly 26,000 professionals from 40 states continue their around-the-clock efforts to restore power throughout the affected communities.

"The preliminary estimated times of restoration are for customers in affected areas. Many of these areas are already having their power restored. Some individual cases may take longer due to unique circumstances. Customers with damage to their meter, meter pan or weatherhead will need repairs to those items prior to Entergy re-energizing their structure.

"We understand the extreme difficulty of living without power, and hope that these estimated times of restoration can help customers better plan and prepare for the coming days, and for those in the hardest-hit areas, weeks ahead,” said Rod West, Entergy group president, utility operations. “We recognize the hardship this historic storm has wrought on our communities and across our region. We ask that our customers remain safe, and we appreciate their extended patience. Please know that thousands of employees and contractors are currently in the field working day and night to restore power. We will continue working until every community is restored.”

Below is a list of preliminary estimated restoration times for affected communities.... ( sept 5- 9).... These are general descriptions of Entergy’s local network. Cities and towns within those networks in some cases will see power earlier than those dates. Specific restoration times down to the local area, including the coast and areas in the immediate path of the storm, are continuing to be developed and will be released in the coming days. Please note that these estimates are subject to change as we complete our assessments and continue with restoration work in the affected areas. We will issue updates to these estimates as we learn more.



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Hope they don't force Steve out of retirement!
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Hope Steve and JoJo are OK!!
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Now historic flooding in NJ and NY as the storm moves northeast.


In neighborhoods and apartments, water quickly filled basement and ground levels and trapped people. Countless water rescues were needed in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and Maryland.

Dozens of rivers are now swollen and bursting their banks. The Schuylkill River in Philadelphia reached levels not seen since 1902.

The weather was spawned by the remnants of what once was Hurricane Ida. Central Park got a record-setting 3.15" of rain in just one hour. At least nine inches of rain fell in just hours in South Plainfield, New Jersey.

The system also fueled tornadoes that trapped people in their homes, knocked down trees and power lines and left tens of thousands of homes and businesses without power.



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YEP... thats ONE FEED out of 8.
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UE lost seven towers between Corner Towers back in the 70s, Tornado hit one, no support the others fell from line weight off balance back to the side load designed towers at either end.  Had the line back up in seven days.
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well that would be great if it was all due to one tower.. Setting by the salt water so i would expect corrosion... Facts are that EVERY LINE into  the SouthEast corner of the state has FAILED.. Will take MULTIPLE DAYS to get SOME power back on. EVERYTHING is laying in the water..... MOST of the towers had been reinforced after Katrina... RED OXIDE Primer on a  lot of the NEW.

I was in Maintenance for 40 years.. People always blame them AFTER the fact... TAke a poll the week before on how many residents wanted to raise their bill $10. a month to do MORE MAINT....... A GOOD Maint program does the best they can with the money they are given.. You can always do MORE.. but NO MONEY..... Multiple towers blown down by 150 MPH winds and 15 ft WAVES is not something you plan for every day.


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Saw photos of the collapsed tower, rusted to beat the band, Not a lot of maintenance performed on it for a LONG time.  Line Crew I still speak with stated likely had a fastener failure, typical of that style, and one brace cuts loose where the rest topple like dominoes.  Entergy is NOT well known for spending money on upkeep.
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It will likely take days to determine the extent of damage to Entergy's power grid in metro New Orleans and far longer to restore electrical transmission to the region, company executives said early Monday morning.

UPDATE: Entergy New Orleans CEO on power restoration timeline: ‘We don’t know.’


Four parishes in southeast Louisiana - and parts of two more - had their main source of power cut when eight Entergy transmission lines failed in Hurricane Ida's intense winds, including a tower that fell into the Mississippi River. 

New Orleans is in the dark, along with Jefferson, St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes as well as parts of St. Charles and Terrebonne parishes.


here is a  map of LA.... shows the southeast cost is 95- 100 OUT OF SERVICE as of now.





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There are 8 different electrical feeds into NEw Orleans.. All 8 were wiped out by the 150 MPH wind.  FLOOD PUMPS are running on generators.  City is using emergency generators to supply power for some minimal lights and pumping city water. Most hospitals have their own generators. Flooding was not quite as bad this time, but electrical system took a big hit.... They are working to restore a couple feeds to the city, but with lines down and underwater, you can just RE-ENERGIZE things.  As of noon today 950,000 still without power... I think about half of that is  New Orleans and surrounding county... It might be a week or two to get to some areas.
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Well... It's started here. Our first tornado warning just expired
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Rains were less, Winds diminished more rapidly, Storm Surge was not Cataclysmic as suggested.  Major Hiline transmission tower fell took down the feeder line into the primary sub station, there are alternate lines into New Orleans just not as dependable and the system operators will have to bypass/isolate the 500kv hiline to connect the 230kv lines into the system.  It is not as if there was a SINGLE feeder into town.

News and Weather services continue to repeat Katrina references, this was NOT a Katrina Event.


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Not to be outdone by TX, all State and Federal elected officials are going to Cancun!

The area of the eye fell apart as it made landfall.  The area around the eye fell apart when a larger ring came up.  The larger ring caused the smaller to fall apart in turn causing the winds to drop off significantly.  The damage was already done but  at least was not exasperated by the continued higher speed winds.  
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Hurricane Ida knocked out power to the entire city of New Orleans, hours after blasting ashore as one of the most powerful storms to ever hit the U.S., New Orleans government officials said.

The city's Office of Homeland Security & Emergency Preparedness said on Twitter that energy company Entergy confirmed that New Orleans has no power, and that the only power in the city was coming from generators. The message included a screenshot that cited "catastrophic transmission damage" for the power failure.

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