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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 949 |
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Well as the title says I broke the drawbar on it planting beans so I was wanting to confirm that a 7000 to a 8070 all have the same drawbar?
The Agco parts book has different part numbers for the 7060, 7080, and the 8070 but they look the same and other sites say they’ll all fit… Is there a difference or not? ![]() |
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 949 |
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21835 |
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7000 will fit a 200 or 190 XT. 7010/8010 and up will fit your tractor. If the tractor has 540/1000 PTO there are two holes at the front to get the length correct for the PTO shaft. Generally, an 8050/8070 and bigger have a higher strength drawbar to allow for heavier drawbar loads. That break looks kind of fresh, so it was overloaded?? or is there a story to explain why it's broken ???
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ryan(IN) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Bluffton,IN Points: 779 |
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8070 drawbar is slightly longer and only has 1 hole in the front because of the tractor being 1000 rpm pto.
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1984 8070 FWA,1979 7060,1975 7040,1971 190,1960 D-17D,1957 D-14, 196? D-19G, 1975 5040,1971? 160,1994 R62 |
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24651 |
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OUCH !!! No way JBWeld will fix that .. ![]() curious.... was it factory 'machined' where the pin goes in ? that's a LOT of metal to just 'break'...... |
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8338 |
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West Allis metal is showing its age and fatique, heard of a few 180, and 190,s breaking around here
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Tenn allis ![]() Bronze Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Nov 2016 Location: Tennessee Points: 140 |
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Have broken several draw bars over time pulling large manure tanks and grain carts and even bent a few which were useless afterwards and the best way we figured out how to save a draw bar was to put a bolt or pin as close to the hitch pin hole as we could and then run a heavy chain behind that pin and then run the chain up over the 3 point arms and let the 3 point carry a large portion of the weight. The bouncing of the weight on the draw bar and flexing it was what was breaking them and by running a chain under the draw bar and sharing the weight with the lift arms it took the bounce out After doing this we never broke another draw bar if they were adjusted right
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 949 |
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We have a 11-19” row bean planter that has the wheels on the front so it pulls up on the drawbar ( putting a chain around it and making the 3 point take some would make it worse) so the more weight in the boxes, the more it pulls up.
Here’s a fuzzy picture of the setup… ![]() |
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 949 |
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Thanks for correcting me Doc!! |
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DougG ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2009 Location: Mo Points: 8338 |
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I got a BMB 15 FT brush hog and it sure makes the 6080 drawbar flex,,
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Gregor ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prague, Ne Points: 305 |
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Dang, good reason to have a safety chain hooked up. Eisenmann supply in Madison Ne will probably have a good used one if you want to drive that far. I was there a couple months ago and they had a few 70XX Allis's parted out and I think the draw bar still in them.
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 949 |
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I got one from All States AG Parts for $267 ship to my door…
So I’ve got it on and fixed up already… Thanks anyway |
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Mikez ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Jan 2013 Location: Usa Points: 8706 |
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Is it new or used
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 949 |
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Used
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Dusty MI ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Charlotte, Mi Points: 5059 |
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Several years ago I bought a used D-10 series III it did not have a draw bar, someone gave me a red one, that's 3" short, not sure if how thick & wide it is supposed to be. I'm thinking about welding 3" to it.
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 949 |
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I don’t know if that would be a good idea, might be a better idea to trade with someone…
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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i've seen them bent before...but never broken! whew!
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DrAllis ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Points: 21835 |
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IF I HAD to weld a drawbar, because I couldn't actually find a correct replacement, the drawbar would be turned around placing the welded area AHEAD of the support bail. It would probably also have extra steel added to the repair area, not just weld.
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Clay ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Udall, Kansas Points: 9874 |
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If you do weld it, make sure you bevel both sides.
Jig up both pieces. Pre heat the metal. Weld with a low hydrogen rod. I like to use a needle scaler to chip the slag. This peins the metal which helps relive internal stresses. (Do this while it is still hot)
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55allis ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Griswold Iowa Points: 949 |
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I agree with both of you, but only in desperation….
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victoryallis ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2010 Location: Ludington mi Points: 2878 |
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I bought my first 6080 with a welded drawbar several years later I broke it further back bought an aftermarket one and bent it. Running a salvage one now. Took longer to break the welded one than bend the aftermarket one.
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8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760
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IBWD MIke ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Apr 2012 Location: Newton Ia. Points: 4063 |
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Good advice.
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