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Joe(TX) 
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Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 8:13pm |
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I looked at a 7010 powershift today. When I tried to back it up it acted like the brakes were applied. In forward it was not as bad. I did notice the brakes applied when barely touched. Is the dragging due to the brake valve adjusted too tight? There is no free play in the pedal.
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sodfarmer
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Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 9:04pm |
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I don't know if this is normal but my 7010 does the same thing when the oil is cold. It is not noticeable after the oil warms up.
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MACK
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Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 9:05pm |
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The brake pedal should have a very small amount of free travel. May be able to feel it with fingers on pedals.
PS sounds like the two center clutch packs needs new drive plates. If you back it up a steep slope, does it act like it slips until it moves a foot or so then locks in? MACK
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Joe(TX)
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Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 10:40pm |
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The engine pulls down when backing. Also some while in forward. I did not drive it very far since I had trouble getting it to back out of the spot it was in,
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Kevin in WA
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Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 10:49pm |
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If you were in high range with cold oil, it sounds fairly normal, hard to say wthout a video of it.
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Joe(TX)
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Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 10:55pm |
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Low range 1st and 3rd gear. Didn't want to move in high range. By the way it was 70 degrees out.
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Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 11:32pm |
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Joe,
That's normal...there is a lot of friction/force to overcome 6 forward gears/clutch packs to one in reverse.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 6:46pm |
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At 70 degrees it should be working perfectly after a short warm up , theres seems a problem with the reverse gear set up in a lot of these, ?
Edited by DougG - 08 Mar 2019 at 6:47pm
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DrAllis
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 6:57pm |
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Reverse clutch gets abused because of two reasons: Reason #1. an improperly adjusted transmission brake on the inching pedal itself causing the brake to come on while the tractor is still rolling. Reason #2. an operator who hasn't been instructed on how to USE the transmission brake. It is NOT designed to stop the tractor. The wheel brakes are for that. So, when a tractor is used on a round baler and makes 100 big round bales with an uneducated driver stopping a 12,000 lb tractor and a baler with a 1800 lb bale inside of it, the reverse clutch get abused needlessly if he is pushing the pedal all the way down for each bale eject.
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 9:25pm |
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Brings up a question. Do you have to clutch to kick the Powershift into neutral? Your bales done now it's time to tie and kick it. Can you go to neutral and just use the wheel brakes to stop inatead of clutching?
Edited by exSW - 08 Mar 2019 at 9:25pm
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Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 9:57pm |
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Not a good idea, as it will just wear out the shifter mechanism faster.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 10:16am |
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Thank you. Didn't do it won't start.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 7:10pm |
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Not a good idea, as it will just wear out the shifter mechanism faster. |
This has my curiosity going, how does shifting the power shift into neutral, without clutching wear out the shifter mechanism faster?
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Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 7:20pm |
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If you are shifting from 6th all the way to neutral just to stop forward motion, why would you want to do that 50 times or more a day when baling hay??? You must not have ever worked on any of those detent mechanisms, as they break often enough as it is.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 7:47pm |
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Ok, that I can understand, didn't think about the detent's. Never baled hay, either chopped it, or hired it stacked.
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Michael V (NM)
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Posted: 09 Mar 2019 at 8:35pm |
DrAllis wrote:
Not a good idea, as it will just wear out the shifter mechanism faster. |
I guess my 8010 is fairly tough, has front end loader, so it gets a LOT of 4th-to R shifts...try to use inch petal little as possible, but setting square bales on a trailer tests it well... I got a 930 CAT payloader now...sure ought to be better cause that's what it's built for...
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Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 8:41pm |
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My neighbor has a 1980 PS 7010. He has the issue of it not wanting to go into park. Looking for both an operator and service manual. Also says it doesnt shift as easily as it used to. Same issue of cable adjustment possibly?? Are these adjustments relatively easy to make once he locates the correct manuals?
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Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 9:25pm |
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Could be old cables requiring more effort to move them. It could be cable adjustments. It could also be the park linkage inside the rear end shift cover is WORN OUT. Been there and dun that many times.
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Posted: 15 Mar 2019 at 10:26pm |
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Thank you. Will explore all options starting with cable adjustments. Just as soon as the manual arrives to guide us in doing it correctly.
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Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 8:04pm |
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Has anyone on here recently rebuilt a power shift transmission on a
7010? Or any 7000 series powershift? Or anyone have an idea on the cost and if parts are even
available. No agco dealers close in the area here to even ask.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 16 Mar 2019 at 8:06pm |
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The only thing you could be sure of, is the price of a gasket/seal kit which is what would be required (at a minimum) to tear one down and reassemble it. Any other expenses would be related to what type of failure has actually occurred.
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