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 Topic: 7010 hi lo shift problem again
Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 6:32pm |
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I had this problem last year where I got the shifter stuck in the middle of nowhere. I took the floor off. I disconnected the cables and pushed over on the small shifter and it worked fine until today. It is stuck again, I disconnected the cables and pushed and it won't move. I have the other shifter in neutral. The cables are new and move freely when disconnected. That shift knob on floor won't move forward or sideways. I also depressed the clutch and tried to move. Any ideas? Should i tap with a hammer to free it? I got hay down and really need it to work. I am not sure how to move the tractor in this condition. I am 8 miles from home too. Thanks for any help.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 8:32pm |
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You don't say what position you were trying to shift into ?? probably PARK ? You clearly have something internally worn out, like a shifting lug. This has become more and more prevelant on these 50 year old tractors, especially when they have been used as "chore" tractors....lots of shifting into PARK. The shift lever under the cab floor needs to be pointing straight UP to be in neutral. This is when looking at it from the side. It may be leaning left or right, but straight up from a side view should be neutral. So, whatever it takes to get it there and quit shifting it into PARK...just use LOW and HIGH until you can tear the range trans shift cover off and rebuild it, which isn't a small job.
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Posted: 25 Aug 2023 at 8:55pm |
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Dr allis, you are right in that I was going into park when it jappened. I did finally get the shifter to go into high. I should say I am not sure I really got it into high. I think it is stuck in high. It is moving so going to not use park at all, as you recommend. Once I get done with hay and get it home, I will work on it more. I have used it a bunch as a work tractor so it may be wearing out. Cutting hay and baling hay the past two years. It is my primary tractor. I am probably about done with hay this year anyway. Curious about how big of a job? Thanks for your advice.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 9:25am |
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I don't drive this tractor as much as my son. I asked him about the behavior and he says that it recently has been very hard to put into low gear. He would push the lever back and as he let out on the clutch, it would come out of gear. He had to push into high and then back to low to get it to stay in low sometimes. He also indicated that he had to push the clutch all the way to the floor to also get it into gear. Slight grinding was occurring if not. This has just come about in the last month. Of course, it has been worked harder this last month due to all of the baling. I haven't bothered trying to get it out of high yet as we are still baling. Not sure if any of these details shed any light on the possible issue being a shifting lug or not. I need it to work as is for 3 more weeks and then I can deal with it. I do hate not having park though.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2023 at 9:34am |
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When you get the range transmission shift cover removed, you won't believe how badly the shift lug and interlock pin will be worn. You'll wonder how it ever worked at all in recent times.
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Posted: 29 Aug 2023 at 6:19am |
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Still curious about what all do you have to remove to then remove the hi/lo cover and fix this issue?
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Posted: 29 Aug 2023 at 6:28am |
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Cab floor. Range transmission cover. Right side fuel tank. Some hydraulic lines. Big round cover , which is the shift cover. 6 hour job.
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Posted: 29 Aug 2023 at 9:11am |
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That doesn't sound too bad. I already have the cab floor off. Not tackled the fuel tank before. I will have to look at the Hydraulic lines. Once I get the cover off, are there other parts that should be replaced while I am there besides the shift lock and interlock pin? I have a service manual so will have to read up on it. Be a month before I tackle it at this point. Probably take me 18 hours since I don't know what I am doing. Thanks for the removal advice.
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