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Tim NH 
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Posted: 26 Aug 2022 at 6:51pm |
You couldn't walk by this tractor without checking it out.
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1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207
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JoeM(GA)
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Posted: 26 Aug 2022 at 6:54pm |
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It was a really nice machine!
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Allis Express North Georgia
41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's,
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JPG AUSTRALIA
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Posted: 26 Aug 2022 at 6:56pm |
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Looks good
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Posted: 26 Aug 2022 at 11:06pm |
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Very sweet !
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Posted: 27 Aug 2022 at 12:56am |
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It looks like a good fit, someone did a really nice job !!
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 28 Aug 2022 at 3:48pm |
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Great restored AC 7000. Pretty paint job. Thanks for sharing. Photo says it had just showered/rained with water drops on lower edge of orange hood & explains the blue shop towel to soak up water from hood exhaust opening.
Thinking it’s a pulling tractor if it has a Ppump?? Don’t think an ordinary 7000’s drivetrain would hold up to a Ppump 5.9 Cummins?
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Posted: 28 Aug 2022 at 4:27pm |
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Oh it would if you dont pull the guts out of it - I think those were factory at around 185 hp; still more than an AC 301
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Tim NH
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Posted: 28 Aug 2022 at 5:10pm |
I should have put this photo on too. 
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1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207
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bigal121892
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Posted: 28 Aug 2022 at 8:37pm |
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What did Ford have a 5.9 Cummins in?
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AC720Man
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Posted: 28 Aug 2022 at 9:42pm |
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Ford owns a large portion of Cummins but has none in their pickups. They tried to persuade Cummins not to sell their engines to Dodge anymore, they just laughed at them I was told.
The last 5.9 was in the 2007 Rams, I just so happen to have been lucky enough to buy one of the last ones on the lot. It has been trouble free since new. The Ppump engine was 160 hp from the factory with around 400 ft lbs of torque if I am remembering correctly. 5.9L is a legendary engine, kinda like the Hemi was and is now.
Edited by AC720Man - 28 Aug 2022 at 9:47pm
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bigal121892
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Posted: 28 Aug 2022 at 9:56pm |
I just see it says manufactured by Cummins Engine Company for Ford Motor Company, that's why I was asking.
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AC7060IL
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Posted: 28 Aug 2022 at 11:03pm |
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5.9 Cummins engine ID tag says “19930525(May,25,1993)Mfg date. So it likely came from a mid-duty 1993 Ford F700 chassis truck?
The AC 7000 owner did a great job of mounting the hydraulic pump below the Ppump.
The 5.9 Cummins 175hp vs AC 7000’s 649T 106hp doesn’t concern me as much as their torque differences, 5.9~400+ vs 4.9~240?
Edited by AC7060IL - 29 Aug 2022 at 1:10am
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Posted: 29 Aug 2022 at 6:08am |
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We had the 5.9 in many of our F-700, 800, and 900 series trucks when I was still working. A very good reliable engine, a bit underpowered in many applications when it was a heavy truck, but gave great service.
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bigal121892
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Posted: 29 Aug 2022 at 7:53pm |
 AC7060IL wrote:
5.9 Cummins engine ID tag says “19930525(May,25,1993)Mfg date. So it likely came from a mid-duty 1993 Ford F700 chassis truck?
The AC 7000 owner did a great job of mounting the hydraulic pump below the Ppump.
The 5.9 Cummins 175hp vs AC 7000’s 649T 106hp doesn’t concern me as much as their torque differences, 5.9~400+ vs 4.9~240? |
I wasn't thinking that far back, but that would make sense.
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Posted: 30 Aug 2022 at 6:33am |
The reason that Ford can not have the Cummins in a pick up is: when Dodge signed the "IRON CLAD" agreement with Cummings back in the late 80s it was stipulated the Cummins engine could never be used in any competitors Pickup as long a Dodge wanted to use a Cummings. Before Ford used the dependable and reliable Cummins in the medium duty trucks, FORD used the 8.2L Dogtriot V-8 which at the time was such a piece of junk that GM would not even offer it in their own Medium duty trucks. Ford lovers will never see a factory installed Cummins in a pickup, continue to dream  The hole under the Injection pump is a standard "B" mount and if a standard drive gear can fit the shaft of a needed pump it will bolt right in. For the power steering in the Oliver I swapped a cummings into, the pump has a splined shaft so all I needed was an adapter gear with a splined hole and matching spacer housing with a bearing in it.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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Posted: 30 Aug 2022 at 8:32am |
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I know folks love 5.9 cummins engines and im glad they have had good service out of them but ive got one in a F700 ford and I finally parked the truck. In 60 years of owning Allis engines ive never had as much trouble with all of them as ive had with that 5.9. I know every brand has their good and bad points but I do not want another 5.9
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Posted: 30 Aug 2022 at 1:21pm |
8070nc wrote:
I know folks love 5.9 cummins engines and im glad they have had good service out of them but ive got one in a F700 ford and I finally parked the truck. In 60 years of owning Allis engines ive never had as much trouble with all of them as ive had with that 5.9. I know every brand has their good and bad points but I do not want another 5.9 |
Most likely your mistake is the FORD that it came in. I know of a local bus company that had ordered a group of buses with Ford chassis and all of them had engine problems from new. After getting nowhere with the Ford dealer in solving the issues he got a competent Cummins mechanic to straighten them out with no more issues.
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits.
If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY
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Posted: 30 Aug 2022 at 8:07pm |
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Right just like the two Chevys I had I couldn't wait to get rid of.
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