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DaveSB 
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Posted: 21 Apr 2021 at 5:14pm |
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Hello,
I have a 1940 Alllis B, the charging system works great. I’ve been running tractor supply batteries in it, because they used to be $69.99 and they never lasted over 2 years. I figured $35 per year wasn’t too bad, now they went up to $100, too much for a 2 year battery IMO.
I just ordered a Duracell Dekka battery for it, will take a couple of days before the battery store has it for me. Has any else had problems with TSC batteries?
And what is a good brand to use that is reasonably priced? I called Interstate batteries and they wanted $160 for a 6 volt, a lot for me not knowing how long they would last.
The Dekka I ordered was only $82 and they gave me 10% off also.
What batteries are everyone out there using, and how are they holding up?
Thanks
Also, should a new battery be charged before use?
Thanks
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Roach
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Posted: 21 Apr 2021 at 7:56pm |
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I have 3 6 volt tractors that I run Interstate dry cell batteries in and 2 of them are 12 to 15 years old and start my G and CA great. Seem high to buy but not when they last that long.
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tractorboy
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 6:48am |
About 15 yrs ago I had the gen. rebuilt in my B, she set to charge wide open all the time, even put a slightly smaller pulley on it to spin faster. Then I put in an 8volt batt. had good luck with the deka , but I forget what's in there now. They last from 3.5 to 6 yrs.If I run it longer then 30 min. I will flip the lights on so as not to overcharge. The 6volt original diehards on here hate it , but I love the reliability!  keith so va
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PaulB
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 6:55am |
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Regardless of the brand of battery, a properly working charging system has more to do with the life you will get from a battery.
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ac45dave
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 7:07am |
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Deka is my first choice or napa which is made by Deka.The last 6 volt in my wd45 made it 8 years on original cut out charging system.
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 7:12am |
Sounds like you purchased a good Battery already. We sell the Deka 901 Battery locally. (can't ship em') Deka's original 6V replacement Battery was the 701. They since replaced the 701 with the 901. The 901 has more amperage, and does a great job for a 6V system when ALL components in the system are working CORRECTLY. Tired Starter motors, bad or under gauged cables, grounds, and poor Generator output are all common problems with the 6V system if not attended to. An 8V Battery in my opinion is a "bandaide" for a non properly working 6V system. Besides, their a PIA to charge.
Batteries are the flukiest things. Its 8 minutes or 8 years. The best antidote for keeping any Battery around and in service for a while is keeping it active. Anytime a Battery sits, it has the chance to start "bridging" between the plates of the cells, eventually causing the Battery to internally short, and fail. To keep the Battery active, a good investment is a Battery Tender. If there is a lot of "sit time" the vehicle sits whether a Car, Truck or Tractor, a Battery tender will keep the Battery electrolite "active" so that bridging does not occur. Hence, longer life for the Battery as well as when the vehicle is needed for service, it'll fire right up and away you go. No messin' around with putting a booster charger or trying to jump from another vehicle. (if 12V) Who wants to take the chance of having an explosion or getting possibly injured..... HTH Steve@B&B
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 7:46am |
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I am in full agreement with other posts regarding "trickle chargers". I have several lawn tractors as well as Orange tractors that set around a lot more than they are used! When Fall comes, they each get hooked up to trickle chargers (sometimes 2 units on 1 charger) and my battery problems are minimal! Make sure and check water levels before putting charger on.
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AC720Man
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 8:33am |
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I used to buy all Deka batteries, however my distributor changed hands and no longer carry them. I have had very good luck with the TSC and Rural King batteries, they are made by Exide. My XT batteries are 5 years old and my WD battery is almost 3 years old. As said above the charging system is key to battery life, as well as a battery tender. Changing out the battery cables to 1/0 wielding cables on my WD made a world of difference.
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DaveSB
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 8:44am |
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Thanks everyone for your replies. My starter was rebuilt last fall due to a nose cone breakage. The generator puts out 10-12 amps on high charge according to my new amp gauge. The starter cables are very heavy cables, and the charging system seems to be operating like it should.
I would always take the batteries into my basement during the winter and put on a trickle charge.
I have an Allis B, WD-45, and D14 all on 6 volt and original charging circuits. All are running TSC batteries and all get 2 years for life of battery, I think it’s their China made batteries not holding up.
Thanks Steve for the reassuring comments about the Dekka that I have on order. Hopefully this one will last a lot longer than 2 years, it says made in USA in the description. The B is run weekly to mow the yard, so it sees plenty of run time during the summer and some use during the winter hauling firewood and such.
Question, do I need to charge or trickle charge the new battery before I install it. I’ve heard different responses about this, what do y’all recommend?
Thanks for the help
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AC720Man
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 9:35am |
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A new battery should be fully charged but I always check it with a meter to be sure. Dekka are very good batteries and I would still be using them if I could get them.
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 10:05am |
I start my 1939 B every month or so, except in winter. The battery is over 10 years old. At all times it is connected to a Battery Tender that I bought from Steve in NJ. Never have a problem starting it.
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Steve in NJ
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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 1:08pm |
I always like to put what I call a "warm up" charge into a new Battery. You don't know how long they've been sittin' before you purchase it. Usually, I set my charger on 12V Lo and put a slow charge in them for about 20 minutes. I then let them sit for about 10 minutes, and then pull a draw test on the Battery to see if it's ready to go to work. In most cases, they're ready to rock n' roll..... Steve@B&B
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